And I described him. I have to ignore Jan 6 in our discussions and his response was:

Just outright killing each other? … what about kidnapping governors, or determining what books are available, or abortion, or gay rights, race, naziism, etc.?

I’ve found you just can’t talk to these types of people. Best to watch Fallon instead - he avoids politics more than the other hosts - and bite your tongue. Good luck - I don’t think I could do it.