From C2 Wiki - Refactoring Is Not Relational:
(FWIW, the URL rewrote itself to https://groups.google.com/g/comp.object/c/2jsImTkGiMY/m/7Iq2BdWcf94J?hl=en .)
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[1] You know, "TopMind" -- starts with t-o-p as in "Table-Oriented Programming"; the rabidly anti-OOP guy we managed to drive away. Ironically, I've later come to appreciate some -- N.B, some! -- of his criticisms a little more.
A discussion perhaps about the same topic came up in comp.object between TopMind and MartinFowler. Here is a link:Heh, not afraid to take on the greats, our Bryce[1] -- Martin Fowler! OK, at a guess, perhaps because he had no clue who that is...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=MPG.178e8f46d88c32db98a642%40news.earthlink.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgroup:comp.object%2Binsubject:Hard%2Binsubject:Partitioning
(FWIW, the URL rewrote itself to https://groups.google.com/g/comp.object/c/2jsImTkGiMY/m/7Iq2BdWcf94J?hl=en .)
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[1] You know, "TopMind" -- starts with t-o-p as in "Table-Oriented Programming"; the rabidly anti-OOP guy we managed to drive away. Ironically, I've later come to appreciate some -- N.B, some! -- of his criticisms a little more.