Pay The Man.

Post #441,275 by Another Scott 4/1/22 11:24:11 PM 4/1/22 11:24:11 PM Reply	Pay The Man. You really don't want to do that job. Not in a house that you care about. Not a door that you'll be using every single day. You don't want to end up with a door with uneven gaps or one that won't stay open when you want it to. Pay a good handyman or a dedicated door installer. Someone who knows how to do it right. Someone who can deal with out-of-square walls and floors, who has all the tools, who will get it done quickly and well. (The wooden door on my shed is coming apart (outside sheeting has peeled away). I'm going to try to repair it again because the hassle of trying to install a new door in it is too painful (the jamb seems to be smaller than a pre-framed replacement and there's no way I'm messing with the siding and all the rest now). The shed needs lots of other repairs that will have to be done by a professional when the time comes, but I don't want to mess with all the rest of it now...) If you insist on buying he tools, etc., make sure you get a self-centering drill bit kit. It's critical to get the screws in exactly the right place in the hinge holes, and you need the proper bits to do that. You'll need good clamps, etc., etc. E.g. https://smile.amazon.com/Bosch-Clic-Change-Self-Centering-Assortment-CC2430/dp/B0000TZX1M/ It's really better to pay the man. :-) My $0.02. Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #441,276 by crazy 4/2/22 8:04:38 AM 4/2/22 8:14:58 AM Reply	I have the self-centering drill bits on the shopping list This house was built in 1984. And it has not settled badly. I do not give a s*** about the fitting of the door if it ends up that way. That's what the planer is for. This will not be a daily use door. This door will be locked in 99.9% of the time. I will not be running downstairs via the stairway. I have another one being installed on my outside second floor porch along with the steps. This door is a semi-permanent barrier to keep downstairs guests, Airbnb, from ever trying to walk up stairs. Stairs. I am creating a barrier. Someday I might have a crazy person down there. So someday I need a few minutes of a barrier. While I am calling the police. After they can't get them through the barrier, they might decide to start a fire. These are the considerations. The difference is $1,500 for a perfectly fit door and a guy to put it in versus $500 for a solid wood used door and the tools to make it fit. Total. The door might be a hundred bucks. I have no problem paying the guy to put up the steps and do my sliding glass to a real door project. But this project I can do myself and get some tools out of it. I have to route in three hinges. I have to put up a bit of wood, which I already have after tearing out the closet downstairs, to be a door jamb. This is a simple project. If I need another person to merely hold it, I will announce on nextdoor that I'll pay some guy 50 bucks an hour for 2 hours. But beyond that I should be able to do this myself and get some tools out of the deal. Edited by crazy April 2, 2022, 08:14:58 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #441,282 by scoenye 4/2/22 7:20:44 PM 4/2/22 7:20:44 PM Reply	Concur They are a PITA to install properly, even without the additional potential problems you describe. (Been there, done that. Not planning on doing it again...)
Post #441,307 by Andrew Grygus 4/5/22 9:08:23 PM 4/5/22 9:08:23 PM Reply	Re: Pay The Man. In my 10 x 11 foot entry room, I had a substantial part of the ceiling come crashing down, It was probably put up at least 80 years ago, with inadequate nails. I thought of buying a drywall lift and repairing it myself, but decided NO! I left messages with a couple drywall contractors - but they didn't call back. I called a ceiling specialist, but he said they only did whole houses, not just a room, and specialized in replacing popcorn ceilings (I had to Google that). I found a broader gauge contractor who actually answered the phone. He did a quote on Friday, based on photos I emailed. He said the entire ceiling had to be torn out (which I expected). He promised a crew would start work Monday between 8:00 and 9:00 am. Fortunately, I had the weekend to strip everything out of the room, which was quite full. Took me over 8 hours to remove a large glass top table, a large expanse of shelving, copy/fax/printer, a heavy cabinet, chairs, and much more. Last, I took down the ceiling light fixture. At 8:30 am, a Mexican, a large white guy, and a woman showed up and went to work. They packed up and left at 4:00 in the afternoon - the job done to perfection, all smooth and painted. The speed with which they did this work was almost unbelievable. All I had to do was put up the ceiling fixture (never a picnic). Of course, it'll take me days to get the room back together, Everything has to be cleaned, sorted, and some thing selected not to return (mostly computer oriented stuff). But today I washed the walls and floor, and the big glass top table is back in. I had to unhinge the front door for that, and it cleared the doorway by less than 1/8 inch. Yes, it cost some bucks, but it sure saved one hell of a lot of hard work, and the job was far better than I could have done.
Post #441,308 by malraux 4/6/22 9:23:35 AM 4/6/22 9:23:35 AM Reply	Experienced craftsfolk are magical We had a drywall contractor in at one point who could free-hand drywall mud that didn't need sanding afterwards. He had gone to art school for several years but decided there was more money in drywall. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #441,309 by drook 4/6/22 2:31:51 PM 4/6/22 2:31:51 PM Reply	Clean first pass is so much better than slap it on then clean it up, same with painting -- Drew
Post #441,314 by crazy 4/6/22 9:18:36 PM 4/6/22 9:18:36 PM Reply	M is magic with drywall I watched her take a fall. Down the steps. I tried to catch her but she's bigger than me. I could not stop her. She went head over heels down the steps and through the wall. She was okay. I had a moment of thinking I had to take her to the hospital. And then I looked at the wall. Holy s***. That wall is gone and I am going to jail. I was on drug court at that time and alcohol was not allowed in my house. That was 10 years in jail for me. If I got caught. We are in a rental and the owner lives next door and she is a picky old lady. I'm going to jail for this for sure. M bought everything she needed to fix it. She carved out the wall and created a squared off area. She cut a piece of plasterboard in and taped it. She plastered everything as needed. She found matching paint and painted it. It was amazing. You could not see that hole. Yes, I understand. Professionals are professionals for a reason. M is better.

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