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New Boyz in the hood
I don’t imagine that the story has received much play outside the immediate Bay Area, but the most recent assault on an elderly Asian took place not far from The Crumbling Manse™, at a spot I could stroll to in ten minutes, just up the street from the corner at which, for eighteen years, I caught my morning carpool. A seventy-five year-old man was robbed and knocked to the ground. It didn’t go well for the contents of his cranium. He’s dead, Jim.

A suspect is in custody and has been charged, although as I understand it he has thus far declined to share with authorities the identity of his driver (the pattern of strongarm robberies, car break-ins and parcel thefts in this part of town has tended lately to consist of teams on wheels). Meet Teaunte Bailey, twenty-six year old and a real charming specimen. Here’s the meat of the CV set forth at the link:
He lives in Oakland, Alameda County, California.
He is 5’8″ and his registered weight is 175 lbs.

When he was 23 years old, he was incarcerated in the Salinas Valley State Prison in Soledad, Monterey County, California.

The Oakland Police Department arrested him for parole violation on November 13, 2018, on July 3, 2019 and on February 11, 2020.

The Alameda County Sheriff’s Office arrested him for parole violation on July 31, 2019 and on December 9, 2019.

On November 16, 2018, the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office arrested him for threats of violence.

On April 4, 2020, the San Francisco Police Department arrested him and his fellow Oakland resident Melissa Taylor. They matched the description of suspects responsible for two robberies that transpired on March 15, 2020 and April 4, 2020. He was charged with robbery, conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor, conspiracy to commit a robbery, possession of burglar’s tools, receiving or concealing stolen property, parole violation, child endangerment and multiple counts of destroying evidence.

On June 29, 2020, the Oakland Police Department arrested him for carjacking, receiving stolen property and resisting, obstructing and delaying peace officer.

On June 30, 2020, he was arrested for robbery by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office and the Oakland Police Department.

On December 7, 2020, the Oakland Police Department arrested him for destroying evidence, robbery, child endangerment, parole violation and receiving or concealing stolen property.

Just before 7:00 a.m. on March 9, 2021, he robbed an Asian man, 75, who was having a morning walk in Oakland then shoved him to the ground, leaving the victim with life-threatening injuries. The victim is an Oakland resident and originally from Hong Kong. He was arrested at around 9:00 p.m.

He was 26 years old when he was arrested on March 9, 2021.

On March 10, 2021, the Oakland Police Department arrested him for revocation of probation, murder, kidnapping, vehicle robbery, carjacking, reckless driving, possession of drug paraphernalia and evasion or wanton disregard of safety. He was booked into the Santa Rita Jail.
You know, I’m starting to detect a pattern here.

I’ve never been able to find the quote, probably because decades after coming across it I misremember the language, but Bernard Shaw once wrote something to the effect that under socialism the root causes of crime would disappear—adding, however, that in any society, however just, there would still be the occasional man, violent and dangerous, impervious to rehabilitation or reform, who could not be suffered to remain at liberty. Nor, he continued, was it sensible to waste other men’s lives guarding these individuals, who should accordingly be put to death in (I thought Shaw used this phrase) “a frank and friendly manner.”

Well, I’m not against capital punishment in principle, but the freakishly arbitrary, capricious, careless and not infrequently cruel fashion in which its is deployed in this society inclines me to oppose it in practice. But can we agree, my auditors, that young Master Bailey, this thoroughly nasty piece of work, is occupying space and consuming oxygen that would be better employed to almost any other conceivable end? It does not appear as though, prior to this week’s outrage (which one assumes will exclude him from the catch-and-release procedures to which he has become accustomed), he has been provided with many procedural disincentives of the sort that might have deterred him from pursuing his vocation. Now he will enter our sordid penal system, from which he will emerge in twenty years even more depraved and still dangerous. It’s not that I want the guy executed, but right at the moment he represents for me that fraction of this city’s residents, its intractably vicious criminal lumpenproletariat, that I have come to loathe since moving here in the seventies, and were I to learn that he had choked to death on jail food this morning I would feel immeasurably cheered, in a spirit of frankness and friendship.

cordially,
New re GBS, maybe this?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1074585-under-socialism-you-would-not-be-allowed-to-be-poor

“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”


Cheers,
Scott.
New Never heard it, but that's a good one
--

Drew
New Damn, you’re good
Obviously I remembered the passage, ah, imperfectly from 1974. I could have sworn that the original alluded to wasting the lives and energies of the gaolers, but this must be it,

gratefully,
New So you'd be all for putting Wall Street to death?
This man ended one life. How many lives have venture capital firms ended by encouraging cost cutting of safety measures, environmental degradation, or outright destruction of peoples' livelihoods or just outright fucking people over to create customers? We should probably put the entire board of directors of Nestle to death for crimes against humanity.

https://www.zmescience.com/science/nestle-company-pollution-children/

Of course, they have money and lawyers, so they'll walk free. This guy has neither, and was probably fucked over his entire life, so let's just murder him and pretend that he's not a product of a system that's fundamentally broken.

From "The Seven Samurai":

Kikuchiyo: What do you think of farmers? You think they're saints? Hah! They're foxy beasts! They say, "We've got no rice, we've no wheat. We've got nothing!" But they have! They have everything! Dig under the floors! Or search the barns! You'll find plenty! Beans, salt, rice, sake! Look in the valleys, they've got hidden warehouses! They pose as saints but are full of lies! If they smell a battle, they hunt the defeated! They're nothing but stingy, greedy, blubbering, foxy, and mean! God damn it all!

Kikuchiyo: But then who made them such beasts? You did! You samurai did it! You burn their villages! Destroy their farms! Steal their food! Force them to labour! Take their women! And kill them if they resist! So what should farmers do?
Ceterum autem censeo pars Republican esse delendam.
New “let's just murder him”
Let’s instead reread my post, specifically the part about opposing the death penalty as it is implemented in this country. Are there societies that impose it in any “just” fashion? I don’t know of any, but we’re certainly not among that hypothetical number. I see no inconsistency between favoring the abolition of capital punishment and acknowledging that there are individuals among us of whom one may fairly observe “He is vicious and dangerous, and if he stopped breathing overnight the sun would rise on a world in which the quotient of human goodness had, albeit quite a number of decimal places back, imperceptibly ticked up.”
This guy…was probably fucked over his entire life, so let's just murder him and pretend that he's not a product of a system that's fundamentally broken.
Sure, assuming the guy hadn’t been pickled in utero, then had he been kidnaped by gypsies and raised by old money in the Hamptons by adoptive parents who sent him to Choate and then Yale…well, he might today be doing cutting-edge research of the frontiers of microbiology. But you know, the gyppos fell down on the job, and Teaunte B wound up passing his formative years under sub-optimal conditions here in Oakland along with many of his contemporaries who will never murder anyone. I mean, boo-fucking-hoo that there aren’t enough ponies to go around and that the best horseflesh ends up in the stables of the privileged. Welcome to this planet. You’ll notice that the sky is usually some shade of blue here, and not paisley.

Yeah, the system’s broken and this violent clown is broken, and all the king’s horses, et cetera. Polluted water under the bridge, y’know? We can try to mend the system (until our own oxen look to be gored) and its casualties, but not all of the detritus is salvageable, and I’m not going to piously pretend that I imagine this unpleasant specimen will lend himself to reform.

Your swing away from the individual villain to the cruel captains of industry puts me in mind of a short online book review I came across recently, but that’s the subject for another post, another forum.

cordially,
Expand Edited by rcareaga March 12, 2021, 08:24:44 PM EST
New I can think of 74 million I'd like to see put to death.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New some people are just stealing air
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
     Boyz in the hood - (rcareaga) - (7)
         re GBS, maybe this? - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Never heard it, but that's a good one -NT - (drook)
             Damn, you’re good - (rcareaga)
         So you'd be all for putting Wall Street to death? - (InThane) - (1)
             “let's just murder him” - (rcareaga)
         I can think of 74 million I'd like to see put to death. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         some people are just stealing air -NT - (boxley)

No, really.
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