It may just need to do its thing once.

Post #438,311 by Another Scott 2/2/21 12:49:45 AM 2/2/21 12:49:45 AM Reply	It may just need to do its thing once. Those things run a lot just after bootup. If you've got a slow CPU, they may need to run a really long time. (I'm not sure the Task Manager is accurate for some of MS's stuff - it seems like they hide AV and similar activity so that users don't get upset by how much of their system is being eated by perpetual virus checks. I may be wrong though.) Can you leave it running overnight or over a few days and see if it settles down? They might need to check everything once before being more sensible via incremental checks in the future. I typically turn off all the fancy Windows visual stuff except for ClearType. Start -> Control Panel -> System -> Advanced system settings -> Advanced Tab Performance Settings button... Custom radio button Everything unchecked except "smooth the edges of screen fonts" Ok. Installing a SATA SSD and using that as the boot disk will help with the slow disk activity too, of course. You should be able to clone your HD to a SATA SSD without Windows activation issues. HTH a little. Good luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #438,312 by pwhysall 2/2/21 3:43:55 AM 2/2/21 3:43:55 AM Reply	Task Manager is fine, and better than it was (visually, at least) I've compared what it says with SysInternals Process Explorer, and the two concur. Come on, Scott. "Hiding AV and similar activity"? "Perpetual virus checks"? Let's not be silly :D The bottom line is that modern operating systems really show up the performance advantage of SSDs, which is fast random access to lots of small files, which is what OSes do a lot of. Nothing in the "performance" tab you mention will make anything other than absolutely marginal difference. I do turn off Windows' animations, for aesthetic reasons - it's in Ease of Access. macOS runs like shit if the system volume is on a rotating disk, too.
Post #438,317 by Another Scott 2/2/21 12:55:27 PM 2/2/21 12:55:27 PM Reply	Yeah, I know... It doesn't make much sense, but I've seen similar things to Drook on occasion. Ungodly slow (with a SATA SSD), Task Manager shows a bunch of things running, but none more than a few percent each. It was that way especially when there have been a mountain of updates to do (e.g. going from Win7 Pro to Win10 E and updating to 1909 or whatever). Eventually, it settled down, but getting there was painful. Drook - are you running any other AV besides MS? We have McAfee (Intel) at work and it usually breaks when MS has a "Feature Update". Partially uninstalled AV things can seemingly cause wonky behavior as well (but the machines discussed above didn't have anything but MS AV). Good luck. Cheers, Scott.
Post #438,319 by drook 2/2/21 3:41:47 PM 2/2/21 3:41:47 PM Reply	I haven't installed anything that wasn't in the default image -- Drew
Post #438,337 by drook 2/3/21 5:16:36 PM 2/3/21 5:16:36 PM Reply	SSD and external enclosure arrived this afternoon, cloning underway At current rate it looks like I won't be swapping it out until after dinner, which means I won't be trying the cycling app until after 9. I hate waiting. -- Drew
Post #438,338 by Another Scott 2/3/21 11:32:23 PM 2/3/21 11:32:23 PM Reply	Fingers crossed!
Post #438,339 by drook 2/4/21 9:23:05 AM 2/4/21 9:23:05 AM Reply	Worked on the first try Boot speed can best be described as "holy shit". I haven't tried the bike app yet as I was waiting for the videos to download. -- Drew

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