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New Here's a link to NY Times.
Chuck Yeager, Test Pilot Who Broke the Sound Barrier, Is Dead at 97

I remember him well. But, frankly surprised he was alive till now.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Me too.. I mean, it's sorta like a guy who's a Food-Taster
for a particularly disgusting Monarch? ..living that long ... after so many meal-times.
Guess he was Charmed by the God of Dare-devils.

Karma! ..sometimes She's not a bitch.
New I mean the story of pushing down on the stick to go up, never heard that
--

Drew
New It's about the ~'reversal of the aerodynamics' of a conventional wing design on/near Mach(o?) 1
I'm fuzzy about when/how: that seat-of-pants info got to be both verified ..then adopted (eventually, into the later designed-for-Mach-1+
wing, fuselage shapes). Clearly, Yeager's flight was before this Trick's discovery--so had only his own Imagination
(and the at least, fresh design of that rocket-plane, perhaps better than anyone realized just then (?)

I no info yet of the When? of these realizations, but: imagine ..the er, "denying Force" in brain: of say, being in a
Boeing MAX* heading downwards ...
and pushing the stick forward! ..as did that first pilot--working simply from his Imagination.
(* Bad example of course): That 'remedy' would not have cancelled-out the brainz-dead SIngle-point-of-Failure of
the MAX's aerodynamical-kluge, for obvious computer-overriding-reasons.

(Likely I'd not fly within one of the ~corrected 'solutions' du jour); believe that the ∑-$$$ LOSSES alone--dictated
that Boeing+FAA du jour: must promote this, now hump-backed-whale with built-in instabilites as follow that
heavy engine swap: the clear ∆ at source of it all). But what do I know re aerodynamic subtleties, eh?
New I imagine the sensation is like when you become conscious of countersteering a bike
--

Drew
Expand Edited by drook Dec. 12, 2020, 12:06:46 AM EST
New Nice catch--two-wheel dynamics oft seem *perverse*
I recall a clash 'twixt moi re DMV drivers tests--re bikes:

They invented some koan re whether you pull-up? or -down? in some weird Ex.
I realized that, sitting astride my stopped bike: Only my muscle-memory had forever kept me riding;
I could not translate the words of this silly script into: What Got Done by the body (gravity + centrifugal +) re
Where?/How? do you Press-instantly on handlebars!

Try it sometime: por moi, Words failed.
Kinda like trying to describe how-you-spit? re ..lungs, mouth embouchure etc. :-/
New now you've added something else to my consciousness
Counter steering? What the hell is that? multiple Google and YouTube videos later I realize I always did it I just didn't know I was doing it. So I guess I'm conscious of it now.
New No, now you're *aware* of it
You'll be conscious of it the first time you're on a bike and push right to go right.
--

Drew
New Perzackly..! drook wins the Clarity award. Again.
But I find most annoying--cf. the DMV example:
When an ignoramus-on-the-topic: imagines that you *Can* roll-out, in simple-ass Boolean algebra,
Any fucking thing that pops into your uninformed-on-topic, Brainz!

(And an explanation to such a perp: is ever given grudgingly) ..if you're bound to edjumacate the perp
despite his pompous assholery, in the First place.
At DMV: one realizes that the poor clerk-at-window is NOT the proper recipient) of your urge to say
~~ Fuck Off! you unclear-on-the-Concept poseur--ever faking it all.

(I'd still like to find out the 'author', that Official writer of shit), designed to maybe NOT renew a Permit,
Evaluating: that which you have safely accomplished since--one's first bicycle, actually.

/ {{Sheesh!}}
New It works a lot better if you're conscious of it
The subconscious way works on a bicycle but things rapidly deteriorate on anything faster and heavier. It works for a motorcycle on the Interstate, but if one ever needs to take evasive action, or underestimate a turn ---> weeds, or worse...
New Quite so.. and IMhO, best place to learn: in the dirt, on a small man-handleable machine (also Fun)
(Learned on a tiny Harley-branded 125cc machine), in front of Student House: sandy/loam surface,
so no worries as you slide out. Laughing.
New Yes, sound barrier screws up aerodynamics.
The ME262 would go into a dive at the speed of sound. The Germans knew this and were developing a swept wing version to fix this.

Also, a successor to the ME262, which was in the early prototype stage, that the US space program people analyzed and determined would have been able to achieve it's designed speed of 1500 mph sometime in 1947.

Our space shuttle was developed from the X-20 Dyna-Soar program which referenced a German orbital bomber design (in early development) with the top stage based on that fighter plane design.
     97-yo Chuck Yeager /Test Pilot! buys the ranch.. - (Ashton) - (33)
         I don't recall ... link to a story? -NT - (drook) - (12)
             Here's a link to NY Times. - (a6l6e6x) - (11)
                 Me too.. I mean, it's sorta like a guy who's a Food-Taster - (Ashton) - (10)
                     I mean the story of pushing down on the stick to go up, never heard that -NT - (drook) - (9)
                         It's about the ~'reversal of the aerodynamics' of a conventional wing design on/near Mach(o?) 1 - (Ashton) - (8)
                             I imagine the sensation is like when you become conscious of countersteering a bike -NT - (drook) - (6)
                                 Nice catch--two-wheel dynamics oft seem *perverse* - (Ashton)
                                 now you've added something else to my consciousness - (crazy) - (4)
                                     No, now you're *aware* of it - (drook) - (1)
                                         Perzackly..! drook wins the Clarity award. Again. - (Ashton)
                                     It works a lot better if you're conscious of it - (scoenye) - (1)
                                         Quite so.. and IMhO, best place to learn: in the dirt, on a small man-handleable machine (also Fun) - (Ashton)
                             Yes, sound barrier screws up aerodynamics. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Anyone who enjoys yarns about pilots - (rcareaga) - (14)
             I'm sure you've read this story before, but have you ever heard it told by the pilot? - (drook) - (1)
                 That was Mach-2 Fun! (we all were paying the gas bill, though) - (Ashton)
             Who here has flown? I had one introduction class. - (crazy) - (11)
                 PPSEL. N7522T is my Cessna 172A. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                     Thanks: myth killed by (likely) Truthiness, aka Be an iconoclast! ..wherever it's important :-) -NT - (Ashton)
                     Well, here’s how Hoover remembered it in 2002 - (rcareaga) - (1)
                         Hoover was a first class guy. No way he'd steal thunder from anybody, let alone Yeager. - (mmoffitt)
                     I don't remember anything about Hoover, nor much about Yeager. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                         Check this out. Short clip of one of Bob's most famous maneuvers. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                             Nice parlor trick. Thanks. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                 My father told me a guy he flew with did tricks like that with a pen - (drook) - (1)
                                     I like to make a sheet of paper heavy. - (mmoffitt)
                             Were there a Nobel for achieving Perfection, reliably-every-time: this über-Mensch deserves a Statue - (Ashton)
                 Gliders here. Touch & go is generally frowned upon with those ;-) -NT - (scoenye)
         I'll not shed a tear. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
             I thought you *hated* Airbus? -NT - (rcareaga) - (3)
                 I don't hate them. I just don't let anyone I know fly on them. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                     Perhaps his people-talents echo those of The Menace - (Ashton)
                     Meh. - (rcareaga)

Almost never.
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