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New Do you realize that Warren would have lost to Trump?
My priority was to take out Trump. So, I financially supported Biden from day one. Trump agreed with me, which is why he got impeached.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New You join several I know in that 'Hobson's Choice', including mine.
She was /is brilliant--thus anathema to the Fascisti amongst us. The idea of mollifying either side to the mental-state of the other
appears to be as chimerical a goal as respecting [fill-in-box] Steve Bannon, Stephen MIller or any of the same cult.
(The ones who quit, OTOH redeemed selves), whether Believers at first or waded-in to try to manage the child-man all the way
up to at least a fifth grade intellect. Biden seems to be on a fool's errand ..yet no fool really; merely a humane mensch attempting
to do battle with hordes of savages--against all odds.

Eerie isn't it? that such a concentration of Opposites lie as giant-peaks In opposition; the differences are much
larger than the unCivil War patois. This is an..anti-Gaussian! curve.

Was this (our local fate) ordained 400 years back--when the first slave-buyers 'colored' Everything ... up to yesterday?
Methinks we're doomed on too many levels to count. Too many ISIS-grade cowards amidst the tribes, here.
Our motto: 'Hell hath no fury like' ... US. I am unanimous in that. The planet will abide--starting over with
bizarre simple organisms ..for another dice throw at 'Natural Selection'?'



[Meanwhile: a one Can enjoy the cosmic humour] and its inescapable Justice. For becoming the lemmings.
YMMV; (moi? ..I haven't done this before)
so I'm just winging the daily Illusion. But eliminating the Cha. Cha. ch-Cha. :-)
(I sympathize with all who have descendants; there can be no Joy ameliorating That horror show). :-/
New She may get to be Secretary of the Treasury.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New How would her successor be chosen?
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Drew
New Initially the governor appoints a replacement.
Then a few months later, there is a special election.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New With control of the Senate in the balance, I don't think they'll risk another vote ...
... unless they're really confident in their polling.
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Drew
New MA is very much a blue state. But, not perfectly blue. :)
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Prove it.
I backed her because she was a progressive bulldog that was acceptable to the "moderate" wing of the Democratic party. She didn't have the same "fuck you" attitude Bernie Sanders had, and she had some great ideas for reform. In fact, I think she had a good shot at the nomination until Sanders jumped in and split the progressive wing. That allowed Biden to unify the conservative wing of the Democratic party by getting everybody else to bow out.

I'll take Biden, mind you - I voted for him in the general. I still think Warren was the better choice overall. There's a lot of people who don't want "business as usual" who either stayed home or voted for Trump because Biden was the "establishment" choice. I think they're fucking idiots, but Warren would have at least had some cred in that department.
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New Well, Biden did not make it by much in the "battleground" states.
In Florida he did not make it because the Cuban and Venezuelan Latinos bought tRump lies labeling Biden as a socialist on the way to making US communist.

Pocahontas was proposing revolutionary changes in taxes. People with money would have funded successful campaigns to paint her as a communist. Lying in political ads is not a problem as I'm sure you've noticed.

I actually agree with her proposals. It just has to be evolved at a slow pace.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
New Biden's ground game sucked.
I remember reading articles months ago about how his outreach to Hispanic communities was almost nonexistent. (I think it was Julian Castro complaining about it, but not sure) His coattails didn't bring anybody along with him for the most part; Democrats lost ground in the House and probably won't have the Senate either. Biden didn't so much win as Trump lost because of his completely incompetent response to COVID-19 IMO - people voted for Biden because they were tired of Trump, but then went down and voted for their Republican Senators and Representatives.

(By the way, STOP FUCKING CALLING HER POCAHONTAS. Thanks for doing Trump's work for him. Hell, I thought I had Native American blood based on family oral tradition until my dad did 23 and me - turns out we don't, but we do have a drop or two of African American DNA, which may be why one of my extremely racist great aunts suddenly stopped doing her family tree research without explanation.)

Warren had a great grassroots network going. She had a lot of broad-base support from the left of the Democrats that unfortunately Sanders took when he showed up to poop on the primaries. Most of all, she wasn't afraid to fight against the Republicans, which is a big fucking weakness with Democrats these days. They're terrified somebody is going to call them a liberal or a socialist, and they run around with their tails between their legs hiding the fact that Moscow Mitch took their balls and keeps them in a jar on his desk.

This is the other side of the problem - the Republican party is FUCKING EVIL. Not "hey, these guys could be redeemable some day", no, they are literally willing to burn the country down if they're not the ones running it. Hell, they're willing to burn down the country even if they are running it.

Biden's going to go all "Oh hey, wouldn't it be nice if we were friends again?", the Republicans are going to cut his balls off and put them on Moscow Mitch's desk, and in two years HUGE red wave over manufactured Democratic incompetence. I hope I'm wrong, but *shrug*.
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New For sure, Biden's ground game could have been better.
They did nothing on Florida's Latino radio.

They focused on the battleground Mid-west states. What used to be the "blue wall".

But the losses in the down ballot were because Trump's base really turned out to vote. More of them turned out this year than back in 2016 when Trump won.

I used the Pocahontas name only to show that Trump was ready to take her on.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
     Even with a Biden victory, we're screwed with Covid. - (mmoffitt) - (20)
         My fear is that Biden will become Carter 2.0 -NT - (InThane) - (19)
             He may not run again. He'll be 82 in November 2024. He might endorse Kamala. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (18)
                 I don't mean to imply in number of terms - (InThane) - (17)
                     Ah. Then a more apt comparison would be Obama. No? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         True. -NT - (InThane)
                     Possible too.. his health (mental or physical) may urge 'spend-time w/family' exit - (Ashton) - (14)
                         I do believe he's got good intentions - (InThane) - (13)
                             Do you realize that Warren would have lost to Trump? - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                                 You join several I know in that 'Hobson's Choice', including mine. - (Ashton) - (5)
                                     She may get to be Secretary of the Treasury. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                                         How would her successor be chosen? -NT - (drook) - (3)
                                             Initially the governor appoints a replacement. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                                 With control of the Senate in the balance, I don't think they'll risk another vote ... - (drook) - (1)
                                                     MA is very much a blue state. But, not perfectly blue. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                                 Prove it. - (InThane) - (3)
                                     Well, Biden did not make it by much in the "battleground" states. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                                         Biden's ground game sucked. - (InThane) - (1)
                                             For sure, Biden's ground game could have been better. - (a6l6e6x)
                             Until the Senate is reformed, it won't matter which non-Repo is in the White House. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 Well, earlier today I made my first donation to the Jon Ossoff campaign. - (a6l6e6x)

I promise you that if I am compelled to turn to the Dark Side on this issue you will come to yearn for the suave ripostes of CRConrad.
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