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Post #435,841
by Andrew Grygus
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8/20/20 11:00:40 PM
8/20/20 11:00:40 PM
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New That has always been the way English works.
If you need to express something and no English word or phrase is exact - look for an exact word or phrase in some other language (Swahili will do) and steal it. It takes on a new life as an English word or phrase.

This story is probably from a Reader's Digest, 1959 or earlier, because that's about the last year I ever saw a Reader's Digest.

An American tourist was traveling through Germany on a train. She sneezed loudly. A lady near her said, "Gesundheit". The American lady turned toward her and said, "Oh, you speak English!". The German lady, who did speak English, laughed and explained that "Gesundheit" is a German expression adopted into English.
Post #435,898
by Ashton
8/22/20 4:08:23 PM
8/22/20 4:08:23 PM
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New ..and that's a Keeper too; your encyclopædia Rocks
and reminds of my (wayback reported) tale of the guy--in DACHAU /the town,( where I was cashing a Travelers cheque
and about to visit Die Götterdämmerung Kamp) asking moi: Why does everybody hate us Germans?
And yes, I did offer a conciliatory reply; on-Inspection: this was NOT an occasion for blurting out any nasty lIsticles
as only a Murican thuggee wouild do /while salivating.

Travel broadens ..even in despair


My all-time fav Confucius Language quote was torn from a magazine (@prolly ~age 14) and I thought maybe it was a discarded
Readers Disgust issue--but its tattered remains seem a bit too shiny for that odious 'condensed!-books-for non-Readers' paper quality.
Argosy? maybe. (Amazing ..the idiot-details of stuff within that ∞/space of jelloware!)
     Let us salute Michelle Obama, perhaps the wisest speaker of them all. Eh? - (Ashton) - (66) - Aug. 17, 2020, 11:12:47 PM EDT
         She was great. Really excellent speech. -NT - (Another Scott) - (65) - Aug. 18, 2020, 12:47:57 AM EDT
             It was a good speech, but come on. It wasn't "great." Let's not oversell. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (64) - Aug. 18, 2020, 11:43:56 AM EDT
                 Caviling? ... - (Ashton) - (62) - Aug. 18, 2020, 05:40:03 PM EDT
                     It wasn't a "We will fight them on the beaches" speech. - (mmoffitt) - (61) - Aug. 19, 2020, 09:08:10 AM EDT
                         Man, the things you let yourself get hung up on ... -NT - (drook) - Aug. 19, 2020, 09:39:53 AM EDT
                         She had a dry mouth. - (crazy) - (49) - Aug. 19, 2020, 09:56:47 AM EDT
                             I said it was a good speech. - (mmoffitt) - (46) - Aug. 19, 2020, 04:14:02 PM EDT
                                 On same-page re the 'grating' but, - (Ashton) - Aug. 19, 2020, 05:07:43 PM EDT
                                 Your're pretty sensitive for a guy who . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2020, 06:44:45 PM EDT
                                     I've spent a little time studying Trotsky's last days. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 20, 2020, 08:45:20 AM EDT
                                 Reasonable point on recording - (crazy) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2020, 07:25:18 AM EDT
                                     Who TF does that? - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 20, 2020, 08:31:00 AM EDT
                                 It's not lazy and it's only grating to ... - (crazy) - Aug. 20, 2020, 07:46:49 AM EDT
                                 You don't understand accents or dialect - (pwhysall) - (39) - Aug. 20, 2020, 10:41:30 AM EDT
                                     Interesting comparison ie: BBC News reader - (crazy) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2020, 11:49:56 AM EDT
                                         Took a dialect class during my year as a drama major - (drook) - Aug. 20, 2020, 11:52:16 AM EDT
                                         Many years have passed since we spoke... - (pwhysall) - Aug. 20, 2020, 12:01:37 PM EDT
                                     I swear I'd not read this until moments ago. But I've a Pulitzer Prize winner on my side. - (mmoffitt) - (35) - Aug. 20, 2020, 02:13:18 PM EDT
                                         Still missing the main point - (drook) - (20) - Aug. 20, 2020, 02:32:48 PM EDT
                                             He's made it clear - (crazy) - (19) - Aug. 20, 2020, 02:53:46 PM EDT
                                                 Would that be... - (malraux) - Aug. 20, 2020, 03:20:37 PM EDT
                                                 s/fear/aversion. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (17) - Aug. 20, 2020, 03:27:31 PM EDT
                                                     And the reason for the aversion is? - (crazy) - (16) - Aug. 20, 2020, 03:33:57 PM EDT
                                                         What Weingarten said. "...no English word should be pronounced with a “shtr” sound." -NT - (mmoffitt) - (15) - Aug. 20, 2020, 03:35:45 PM EDT
                                                             Have you heard him speak? - (pwhysall) - (14) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:21:12 PM EDT
                                                                 Heh. "Criticizing her." Because I said her speech was good? - (mmoffitt) - (13) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:55:13 PM EDT
                                                                     You damned with faint praise and then went on with insults. -NT - (crazy) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:58:18 PM EDT
                                                                     That's not all you said - (drook) - (11) - Aug. 20, 2020, 05:00:35 PM EDT
                                                                         I replied to Box, below re 'Language Itself' This for you: - (Ashton) - Aug. 20, 2020, 07:18:21 PM EDT
                                                                         IT IS *NOT* A DIALECT ISSUE. DIALECTS ARE TIED TO REGIONS OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Aug. 21, 2020, 11:20:10 AM EDT
                                                                             what about frogtalking? woman rasping like a frog on purpose not regional put epidemic -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2020, 11:56:37 AM EDT
                                                                                 Vocal fry - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2020, 12:08:52 PM EDT
                                                                                     Thank you /thank you: a Keeper. [Ed}. - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2020, 04:32:40 PM EDT
                                                                             Lighten up, Francis - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 21, 2020, 12:07:07 PM EDT
                                                                                 Because he needs to find fault to feel superior - (crazy) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2020, 12:48:25 PM EDT
                                                                                     Yeah. Right. I *feel* proper pronunciation is important. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 21, 2020, 01:59:53 PM EDT
                                                                                     C'mon crazy: 'Projection' is reserved /expected from the forces of The Menace, not the sentient. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2020, 04:59:12 PM EDT
                                                                                 Ha. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2020, 02:02:13 PM EDT
                                                                                     Because the 4th is *also true* -NT - (drook) - Aug. 21, 2020, 05:41:10 PM EDT
                                         Re: I swear I'd not read this until moments ago. But I've a Pulitzer Prize winner on my side. - (boxley) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:07:33 PM EDT
                                             (I use 'thee and thou'; I don't confusicate Stuff with Schtuff and I still think doing-so: Sch-ucks - (Ashton) - (4) - Aug. 20, 2020, 06:32:31 PM EDT
                                                 Speaking of which... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2020, 06:50:39 PM EDT
                                                     Heh! never þought I Be prescient.. but feels nice ever to be a þorn ..in any Repoþ's jelloware :-) - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 22, 2020, 12:41:47 AM EDT
                                                         I don't watch much TV of any sort these days. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2020, 11:27:50 PM EDT
                                                             Just informing is all: no need to proselytize re authentic virtuosi, I wot.:-) -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2020, 05:03:57 PM EDT
                                         Well, are you sure this isn't actually restoration . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Aug. 20, 2020, 06:23:32 PM EDT
                                             English is more like Scandinavian than German - (malraux) - (6) - Aug. 20, 2020, 07:18:05 PM EDT
                                                 English is a thieving language. - (static) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2020, 10:04:30 PM EDT
                                                     That has always been the way English works. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2020, 11:00:40 PM EDT
                                                         ..and that's a Keeper too; your encyclopædia Rocks - (Ashton) - Aug. 22, 2020, 04:08:23 PM EDT
                                                 I wrote "Germanic", not German. - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 20, 2020, 10:39:43 PM EDT
                                                 Going the other way - (scoenye) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2020, 09:28:58 PM EDT
                                                     I recall reading that the King's / Queen's English . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 21, 2020, 10:31:13 PM EDT
                             Nice.. I'd missed your subtle, obvious point. - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2020, 04:34:35 PM EDT
                                 Rosalynn Carter is class through and through. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 19, 2020, 04:52:09 PM EDT
                         wat - (pwhysall) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2020, 10:07:26 AM EDT
                             We stopped taking lessons from you lot over two centuries ago. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2020, 04:16:27 PM EDT
                                 Y'all can believe that if you like - (pwhysall) - Aug. 20, 2020, 03:15:35 AM EDT
                             Also. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Aug. 20, 2020, 10:12:18 AM EDT
                                 pronounce it like its spelled, lout -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2020, 12:25:16 PM EDT
                                     I was being a smartass. You know the Brits have a different word for it, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 20, 2020, 01:55:37 PM EDT
                                         no, you spelled it wrong as well -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:40:38 PM EDT
                                             Not here or in Canada. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2020, 04:43:33 PM EDT
                                                 so proper speech depends on locale? good to know -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2020, 05:26:32 PM EDT
                                                     Oui. Da. ¡Si! Sehrgut, as in ... Duh: Matey, Señor .. ... -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 20, 2020, 06:41:21 PM EDT
                 Yeah, and tRump said it was not live but pre-recorded. - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 20, 2020, 06:09:20 PM EDT

I have, if not a full ink, at least an inkling.
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