Being less eschatological would be good for you.

Post #433,909 by pwhysall 5/7/20 2:44:37 AM 5/7/20 2:44:37 AM Reply	Being less eschatological would be good for you.
Post #433,910 by Ashton 5/7/20 4:25:03 AM 5/7/20 4:25:03 AM Reply	Jeez, Peter.. I mean: here We Are: amidst an apparently rapidly 'adapting' organism' and.. (as the Bard ~~would~~ did say: ..whose worth's unknown although his height be taken: we are 'governed' by a psychotic individual, known to have the approximate brain-power of a chemical-besotted tick: and you'd prefer we leave the post-mortem speculations solely to the same collared-clerics who brought us The Spanish ~~flu~~ Inquisition? When do we thanatology-amateurs get a chance to duel with the Pros? (whose 'advice' through the Ages seems to have been seen as "settled Bizness' under their rubric)--akin to the aforementioned psychotic-Individual's stump speech wherein he says. "..and Only I can Save you!" (amidst other jibberings: then and ever-since). E Pluribus Non Compos Mentis
Post #433,914 by crazy 5/7/20 9:16:37 AM 5/7/20 9:16:37 AM Reply	Did you ever use that word before? eschatological New to me.
Post #433,916 by pwhysall 5/7/20 10:17:12 AM 5/7/20 10:17:12 AM Reply	Not often, but yes.
Post #433,918 by crazy 5/7/20 10:58:17 AM 5/7/20 10:58:17 AM Reply	How did you originally discover it? If possible, obviously. I am seriously wondering because to know that word is to have gone through the process of doing a lot of deep reflection to have discovered that word. So were you having the end of the world thoughts and came across it or was it merely as part of an interesting article type of thing?
Post #433,921 by malraux 5/7/20 11:55:27 AM 5/7/20 11:55:27 AM Reply	Re: How did you originally discover it? I learned that word while reading various end-of-times myths and from a science fiction book by Charles Stross named "Singularity Sky". Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #433,948 by pwhysall 5/8/20 2:31:13 AM 5/8/20 2:31:13 AM Reply	No idea, but... ...it was already in my vocab when I first heard "Destination Eschaton", by The Shamen - and that was on 1995's Boss Drum.
Post #434,193 by CRConrad 5/27/20 5:44:56 PM 5/27/20 5:44:56 PM Reply	I knew that one, and as you all know, I never think. You learn words by reading lots of shit. Yeah, could be I got it like Scott A, from Stross. Not necessarily, though, don't remember fersure. Anyway, doesn't have much -- if anything -- to do with deep Rodin-pose Pondering at all. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #433,919 by mmoffitt 5/7/20 11:15:35 AM 5/7/20 11:15:35 AM Reply	Have you used it appropriately yet? No. Viruses have yet to be successfully attacked by allopathic medicine. Aside from symptomatic treatment, which does not address the root cause of viral infections, we've relied on plasma generated antibodies arising either naturally or artificially via vaccines to combat viral infections. It is worrisome that a non-trivial number of patients have gone from Covid-19 positive to Covid-19 negative and back to Covid-19 positive. If these "re-infection" tests are picking up different viral strains, then this is only a problem if the virus is mutating too fast for vaccines (or our own B-Cells) to keep up with. But if that's not the case and people are actually being re-infected with the same virus, then this is entirely new. Historically, surviving a viral infection resulted in antibodies to that virus - meaning you couldn't catch the same virus again while these antibodies were present. That may not be the case with Covid-19. It's far from certain, but if it turns out that naturally occurring antibodies are an insufficient defense against re-infection, then that would render out entire strategy of combating viral infections through vaccines utterly useless. It's an interesting problem. That's all. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,922 by malraux 5/7/20 11:56:45 AM 5/7/20 11:56:45 AM Reply	Reinfection probably isn't reinfection. There was a very recent study that showed that it was likely just test faults and long periods of time before expression. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #433,923 by mmoffitt 5/7/20 1:07:33 PM 5/7/20 1:07:33 PM Reply	I'm dubious of that, too. The continuing asymptomatic, contagious infections post symptomatic expression makes this dicey in a way other common viral infections aren't. My overall sense on this is that we just don't know enough yet to make any decisions about "re-opening" of economies, schools, gatherings, etc. Initial studies suggest this is a different kind of virus than those with which we are familiar and behaves in ways others don't. It could be spectacularly worse than a lot of people are prone to believe. The fact that vaccine development is being done under the assumption that mutations are unlikely may be problematic. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,925 by malraux 5/7/20 1:31:52 PM 5/7/20 1:31:52 PM Reply	Re: I'm dubious of that, too. https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1257828922638700546 Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #433,928 by Ashton 5/7/20 3:47:39 PM 5/7/20 3:47:39 PM Reply	(Dunno how you zeroed-in to such an al-punte Find.. c'est Magnifique!) It seems almost 'paranoid-resistant' too, when you peep the subtended YES/NO qualifications and their (redundant?)-constraints upon ANY-idea that: "You Skipped something" within your provenance, You Fuel !!". Just now CA's Gov is delivering his daily summation, expounding also--in plain but not Patronizing framing--to remind that "COVID activity continues here", thus Why ..any precipitate-OPENING-WIDE actions ..won't happen on his shift. (I know of no other Gov,. who has spoken so clearly, completely and Daily): with his precision and, oft even eloquence ..all of this sans an iota of Pol-Speak (except an occasional aside: about some diversionary-meme floating about: and His 'take'). Maybe FDR, in his [rare ..thus always listened-to] 'Fireside Chats', from that keen mind: bested the lot of such communications (?) though we have no peer alive as can match The Bard, I wot. Lucky CA, Lucky moi. So NOW: back-to: trying to project anything useful from: the speaking-in-tongues range of largely-BS-bloviations, rampant across the dis-US-of-ignorant armies clashing by night (to coin a phrase..)
Post #433,936 by mmoffitt 5/7/20 5:18:00 PM 5/7/20 5:18:00 PM Reply	The DNC needs to draft him at their convention. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,942 by Ashton 5/7/20 9:19:00 PM 5/7/20 9:19:00 PM Reply	Hmmm ✓✓
Post #433,935 by mmoffitt 5/7/20 5:16:47 PM 5/7/20 5:27:16 PM Reply	That's encouraging. Thanks. Added a link. https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1074-7613%2820%2930183-7 bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. Edited by mmoffitt May 7, 2020, 05:27:16 PM EDT Expand All History

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