One thing in the Red 2021 that belongs in the Blue 2021 now that it's Biden.

Post #433,480 by mmoffitt 4/8/20 4:59:57 PM 4/8/20 4:59:57 PM Reply	One thing in the Red 2021 that belongs in the Blue 2021 now that it's Biden. What about prosecuting senators for insider trading? No, the candidate explained, because “when I’m president the country will all pull together.” If/when Biden wins the general, don't look for any accountability to be shouldered by the parade of criminals we've had for the past four years, let alone the Carnival Barker in Chief. Biden will draw on Obama's "we don't look back" homily and let the bastards (his fellow Senators or "good friends") get away with everything they've pulled. Because Corporate Democrats are Corporate Democrats and the Senator from MBNA is at the head of that PAC. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,481 by Another Scott 4/8/20 5:53:55 PM 4/8/20 5:53:55 PM Reply	That's the MM I remember. I thought he would have been chastened by the last 4+ years, but I guess not. It's good to see that only Democrats - still - have agency. Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,487 by Ashton 4/9/20 3:07:40 AM 4/9/20 3:07:40 AM Reply	Easy riposte (or re-post?) ... "We'll see what happens.. ..."
Post #433,489 by pwhysall 4/9/20 6:21:25 AM 4/9/20 6:21:25 AM Reply	Re: That's the MM I remember. _..ooOO Read me in my posts OOoo..__
Post #433,491 by mmoffitt 4/9/20 11:35:39 AM 4/9/20 11:35:39 AM Reply	I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him. But, I'm realistic. I expect no immediate miracles. He's already explicitly said he opposes Medicare for All and while there's no doubt he'll get rid of DeVos, his half century of being embedded with big banks makes me believe there's not going to be a huge difference for our graduated debtors. Still, I'll vote for him because we're in a disaster. We're on the Titanic, it's going down and there's a guy handing out life jackets. You put one on and go in the water. Yeah, you'll slowly freeze to death as your core temp drops, but that's better than drowning immediately inside the sinking ship. My kids, OTOH, are going to be harder to convince. I spoke to them both on the phone yesterday and the Corporate Class would have been proud of me. I told them they had to vote for Biden because of Trump. I don't think I convinced them. The youngest said, "Biden doesn't represent what I believe in and if Trump wins, it's only four more years." I hope that was just the bitter disappointment of Bernie withdrawing talking. I also hope the slightly less than half of Democrats who supported Bernie don't all feel that way, but I think the young'uns just might. They were disillusioned by Hillary and they're disillusioned with the Senator from MBNA. The bankster class (to whom all post-Clinton Democrats are beholden) has really screwed the country over, but the coming generations even more so. I hope that doesn't cost us all in the fall, but I guess we'll see. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,494 by malraux 4/9/20 12:48:54 PM 4/9/20 12:48:54 PM Reply	"Only 4 more years" Wow, that's depressing. We can fall a lot further than we already have in 4 more years. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #433,497 by Andrew Grygus 4/9/20 1:13:00 PM 4/9/20 1:13:00 PM Reply	Trump has already suggested . . . . . that he should get more than 4 more years. It may take military action to get him out of the White House.
Post #433,525 by mmoffitt 4/10/20 3:23:27 PM 4/10/20 3:23:27 PM Reply	She's still in her 20's. I suppose she figures she has time. And, like her, I recall being a lot less inclined to compromise on my principles when I was in my 20's. America will drive that unwillingness to compromise on one's principles out of anyone, if they want to eat. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,533 by drook 4/10/20 11:58:26 PM 4/10/20 11:58:26 PM Reply	That's not unique to America -- Drew
Post #433,552 by mmoffitt 4/12/20 3:21:17 PM 4/12/20 3:21:17 PM Reply	In how many places have you lived? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,557 by drook 4/12/20 5:22:07 PM 4/12/20 5:22:07 PM Reply	Fair question I haven't lived in Russia, where they had (have?) gulags for those who tried to maintain their principles. Nor in China where they move a party member into your bed to make sure you toe the line Nor in any of the banana republics where people simply disappear. So what was your point? -- Drew
Post #433,567 by mmoffitt 4/13/20 8:27:37 AM 4/13/20 8:27:37 AM Reply	Your comment claimed knowledge not necessarily at your disposal. Americans love to do that. It's an extension of "We're the Greatest Nation on Earth™." I didn't want to accuse you of that without knowing if you had, in fact, at least some first hand experience living in other places from which to draw upon. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,563 by crazy 4/13/20 6:52:37 AM 4/13/20 6:52:37 AM Reply	Pre or post 25?
Post #433,568 by mmoffitt 4/13/20 8:28:22 AM 4/13/20 8:28:22 AM Reply	Why? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #434,950 by crazy 6/30/20 6:30:43 PM 6/30/20 6:30:43 PM Reply	Missed this a while ago, sorry Because 25 is brain pruning. 25 is when you're an actual adult.
Post #434,969 by mmoffitt 7/1/20 10:19:55 AM 7/1/20 10:19:55 AM Reply	No worries. Looking back, the reason for your question was obvious. I'm sorry. And post. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #434,996 by Ashton 7/2/20 3:36:54 PM 7/2/20 3:36:54 PM Reply	Nevertheless.. Early on, a friend--opining about an involvement with one such age, said, NEVER! 'date a 25(ish?) woman'.. ~~"they are in transition to --> they know not what; emotions want You to believe that --that pillow talk is Who-they-Are. 'Taint-so, McGee'". .... etc. (With later experience(s) I could neither confirm/deny but .. callow-yout ensures that 'the advice' won't be heeded.) And he was right-enough, that I've Recalled the point ... ever since. YMMV
Post #433,501 by Another Scott 4/9/20 2:46:28 PM 4/9/20 2:46:28 PM Reply	Joe isn't the enemy. https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/senate-bill/2891 S.2891 - Global Climate Protection Act of 1986 99th Congress (1985-1986) BILLHide Overview Sponsor: Sen. Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [D-DE] (Introduced 09/29/1986) It's still early in this cycle. With luck, they'll come around. Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,502 by mmoffitt 4/9/20 3:12:03 PM 4/9/20 3:12:03 PM Reply	No, he's not. He's more like Switzerland. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,515 by boxley 4/9/20 10:44:45 PM 4/9/20 10:44:45 PM Reply	good argument here “To me, it’s give me a random dog catcher versus Trump, and I’m going to vote for the random dog catcher,” he said. “...But if you say, ‘Get excited’ about a random dog catcher, you don’t know about or has a bad record, no I’m not legally obligated to get excited.” try that one on yer kids https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/492061-cenk-uygur-assumption-progressives-need-to-get-excited-about-biden-is-wrong "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #433,524 by Ashton 4/10/20 2:36:36 PM 4/10/20 2:36:36 PM Reply	tl;dr ... "WIll pick the rabid-one, drooling but not vicious: over ____" FIFY
Post #433,492 by mmoffitt 4/9/20 11:41:05 AM 4/9/20 11:41:05 AM Reply	And, BTW, does anyone believe he'll go after anyone from the previous admin/Senate? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,509 by Ashton 4/9/20 6:29:21 PM 4/9/20 6:30:51 PM Reply	Yes. For electioneering funds ..thus making him aprty-to ... scratch Their backs, Later. (Have we not seen this soap set-on-Repeat? since tykehood. Charge of the LIght Brigade; theme-song? Seems that vulture-Capitalism has a dead-man's-switch: tamper with its workings and.. (Recall the James Bond scene) His Aston-Martin parked. Zooms-in: Sign in window: "This Car Is Protected" Bad-guy seeks to enter... . . . [It Was, Colorfully + loud] . . Only sane solution: . Find /nuke all the islands /hide-away garrisons (containing on-site) Oligarchs: ALL you can get enough intel on. Be methodical, effective and sinister in doing the homework. [no Leaks, either!] It's efffective; we have the Techno. It's Necessary: as no 'legislation' of any/all 'States' can ever overturn the guile, the Money-drugs taken intravenously --as keep these: adamantly unTeachable enemies of any civilization (anywhere they are free to $$manipulate) active.. [nor, after-death: via any 'heirs-to' such invidious machinations]--that will be harder to achieve, of course. But: persevere! This.. only if the few [fully-Conscious or near-enough) humans finally DECIDE to keep the Planet alive so as to next make it Habitable by (any remaining fully-Human Beings). That is all. (Carrion will always be extant--but we have garbage dumps of literal and allegorical style). :oTpy Edited by Ashton April 9, 2020, 06:30:51 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #433,510 by Another Scott 4/9/20 8:32:48 PM 4/9/20 8:32:48 PM Reply	Don't we have an Attorney General and Justice Department for things like that? Do you want the President telling the AG who to prosecute? Are you a big fan of Donnie's lackey Bill Barr? https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1248273801567186946 To be clear: Congress can investigate. The FBI can investigate. The DOJ can prosecute. It's not the President's job to be telling them who to go after. The AG is the AG of the United States, not the AG of the President. Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,512 by Ashton 4/9/20 9:40:01 PM 4/9/20 9:40:01 PM Reply	[You imagine that this cabal Cares about 'Procedures', at all?] We'll See™. Of Course! everyone not-asleep: anticipates THE REVIEW /many with relish, add moi.. IF ..there's an election. At all. IF it is not manifestly an obvious-Creature of the GOP voter-suppression as. is. most. Likely. I wot. ie ((sheesh!}} were the dis-US even remotely "in a democratic sorta-'state'"; aka: Functioning: 90% of the palaver across all States ... would be superfluous: would be about Sports Scores. IT'S APRIL and the WH-PURGES are incrementally-rising. Should that become ~ e^{x dx dx} ... Tell Us All about %WHAT? of any DC-Branch of Govt--shall function at all? I'm. All. Ears. (and you're nearest the accretion disk of the DC Black Hole).
Post #433,518 by Another Scott 4/9/20 11:52:51 PM 4/9/20 11:52:51 PM Reply	I have no doubt that Donnie is going to continue to break things. But we are going to have an election in November, and a new President in January. Preemptively talking about how horrible Biden is when we have a monster in the White House killing people strikes me as really, really stupid. Especially since we saw that same script in 2015-2016... YMMV. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,514 by boxley 4/9/20 9:57:49 PM 4/9/20 9:57:49 PM Reply	well, will the new one stand on the tarmac and take orders from the ex-president? "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #433,517 by Another Scott 4/9/20 11:49:45 PM 4/9/20 11:49:45 PM Reply	Yeah, just like they made a fortune on White Water. https://qz.com/1306227/in-the-inspector-generals-report-bill-clinton-and-loretta-lynch-describe-their-tarmac-meeting/ Bill likes to talk. Film at 11. She didn't take any "orders" from him. And no AG would take their "orders" from an ex-president. Don't be daft. Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,520 by boxley 4/10/20 9:54:32 AM 4/10/20 9:54:32 AM Reply	was pocket change unlike what they took in from the russian ogliarches "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #433,523 by Ashton 4/10/20 2:33:46 PM 4/10/20 2:33:46 PM Reply	..[oblig] "What? that was nothing! compared-with the coverup of all those orphans (some with spina-biffida) they used for target practice" (stress relief) in the basement of an unlisted-address in the Poconos. (You just don't know how to Un- Earth- the REALLY-juicy stuff, which only the Illuminati Know-and-you-Don't) Make-believe is like the Universe: infinite-in-this-case and Unbounded. It's.. In--Credible !!! See: you didn't even know--as do we Insiders--how/where (they put that little dose-dispenser in your water line.) But: clearly it's been Working, all along. (It's portable: moves with You). That is all, Carrion.
Post #433,564 by crazy 4/13/20 7:00:45 AM 4/13/20 7:00:45 AM Reply	A few days ago you could put together a cogent thought Essentially after I beat the distractions and trolling away. At the end you agreed with me. Yet here you are back to being a trolling SOB. Sigh. Ok CC, he's all yours.
Post #434,946 by CRConrad 6/30/20 5:29:05 PM 6/30/20 5:29:05 PM Reply	Oh look, another long-debunked right-wing talking point. Surprise, surprise. I've wondered for a good long while, so please explain: Are you somehow able to keep posting these obvious lies year in, year out without feeling any sorrow at all for your long-lost intellectual integrity -- or is it that you see some higher glorious purpose for them, that makes it worth the sacrifice? -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who (used to think he) Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #433,519 by mmoffitt 4/10/20 8:28:05 AM 4/10/20 8:28:05 AM Reply	You mean like Holder? Mr. Holder had already ruled out any charges related to the use of waterboarding and other methods that most human rights experts consider to be torture. His announcement closes a contentious three-year investigation by the Justice Department and brings to an end years of dispute over whether line intelligence or military personnel or their superiors would be held accountable for the abuse of prisoners in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The closing of the two cases means that the Obama administration’s limited effort to scrutinize the counterterrorism programs carried out under President George W. Bush has come to an end. Without elaborating, Mr. Holder suggested that the end of the criminal investigation should not be seen as a moral exoneration of those involved in the prisoners’ treatment and deaths. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/us/holder-rules-out-prosecutions-in-cia-interrogations.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1 Maybe taking a cue from Obama? Q Spanish judge Baltasar Garzón is considering a lawsuit filed by attorneys representing six Spaniards who were at one point held at Guantanamo. And that lawsuit wants to go after President Bush's legal team. What is your reaction to that? THE PRESIDENT: Well, you know, obviously I've been very clear that Guantanamo is to be closed, that some of the practices of enhanced interrogation techniques I think ran counter to American values and American traditions. So I've put an end to these policies. I'm a strong believer that it's important to look forward and not backwards, and to remind ourselves that we do have very real security threats out there. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/obama-interview-with-cnn-en-es.html Anybody get prosecuted? Nope. Okay. Well, there was this one case ... The details in the Senate report on Central Intelligence Agency torture, released today, are shocking. But don't expect anyone to be held responsible. The only person the Obama administration has prosecuted in connection with the torture program is a man who revealed its existence to the media. https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/12/9/7361667/senate-torture-report-kiriakou There is no sane reason to believe anyone in the Trump Administration will be prosecuted for anything under a Biden Administration. Real Democrats (the DNC, Bankster class approved types) know that digging into the malfeasance of Republicans might lend credibility to investigating things like, say, the Democratic President who started locking kids in cages at the border or the Democratic President who ordered more assassinations by drone than any other, including a US citizen, without trial or oversight. And we simply can't have that. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,522 by Ashton 4/10/20 2:13:05 PM 4/10/20 2:13:05 PM Reply	But.. but... Are you suggesting that: the dis-US %overall-Corruption is no longer measured in milli-Bolsonaros [an an hoc Test® just created] ..but more like KIll-O-Bolsonaros? The Word for today (as explains much, when one thinks about it-all?) ... inured. T'aint Easy dwelling amidst the perhaps least-informed feckless tribes ever assembled on one Continent (well, not for this moi, anyway) Yours in sloth.. it's within the atmospheric globules now, its Half-life measured in DJT-days-in-office Units (according to NIST).

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