The non-smart are often more expensive, the others are subsidized

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Post #432,413 by drook 1/31/20 7:22:13 AM 1/31/20 7:22:13 AM Reply	The non-smart are often more expensive, the others are subsidized -- Drew
Post #432,418 by a6l6e6x 1/31/20 11:09:35 PM 1/31/20 11:09:35 PM Reply	Re: "the others are subsidized" Because you are spied on and your viewing habit information is sold. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #432,425 by Ashton 2/1/20 3:22:48 AM 2/1/20 3:22:48 AM Reply	Yup.. automatic now; no need to 'write down' what you hand-switched ..on the Channel knob. that Whas-is-name Corp who rated stuff--and paid you, wayback; when everything becomes Opt-out-impossible, it's 1984 fershure
Post #432,426 by static 2/1/20 3:24:30 AM 2/1/20 3:24:30 AM Reply	^ This. Someone (Cheddar? Vox?) did an article explaining this. I don't want a "smart" TV either. Partly because it's one more device now in an upgrade cycle (there are stories of older such devices being abandoned by their maker, so now things like the Youtube app no longer works). Partly because I already have all my "smart" functionality in a DVR I pay a subscription for. I currently use a projector for the actual image. Wade
Post #432,427 by malraux 2/1/20 10:22:20 AM 2/1/20 10:22:20 AM Reply	My next one will likely be a projector. Easy solve for the smart TVs though: don't attach them to the network. Unless they've gotten truly smart and refuse to work unless they've been "updated" recently. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #432,429 by crazy 2/1/20 11:55:55 AM 2/1/20 11:55:55 AM Reply	At least it is less likely they have a camera on you
Post #432,430 by drook 2/1/20 1:49:02 PM 2/1/20 1:49:02 PM Reply	If they don't already, it's coming I just bought my daughter a cheap Windows laptop for school. It wouldn't complete setup without logging in to a Microsoft account. I created a throwaway, then after setup I had to go into settings and choose to log in as a local user to disconnect from the account. -- Drew
Post #432,460 by malraux 2/5/20 8:05:41 AM 2/5/20 8:05:41 AM Reply	You can disconnect from the network before that point and it errors out but still installs But that's Windows, not the hardware maker. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #432,464 by drook 2/5/20 9:20:38 AM 2/5/20 9:20:38 AM Reply	It prompted me for wifi before prompting for the account There was an option "I don't have a network" that I could have used, but I didn't know what was coming. After entering the wifi credentials, there was no way to continue without the account. That workflow was very carefully built. -- Drew
Post #432,470 by malraux 2/5/20 4:41:16 PM 2/5/20 4:41:16 PM Reply	Yup, for sure. The only reason I knew about it when we were setting up the gaming PC is that I decided to Google about it before continuing on. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #432,472 by drook 2/5/20 7:28:08 PM 2/5/20 7:28:30 PM Reply	I almost did that But this is an $80 notebook, literally disposable. Not worth even 10 minutes of research. -- Drew Edited by drook Feb. 5, 2020, 07:28:30 PM EST Expand All History

espn+ 4.99 a month 2 habs games per week well worth it - (boxley) - (26) - Jan. 27, 2020, 09:49:26 PM EST

Chromecast to the big screen? -NT - (drook) - (4) - Jan. 28, 2020, 09:30:41 AM EST

get jitter the larger you make the screen, hard to follow the puck -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2020, 12:00:26 PM EST

Guess bluetooth doesn't have the bandwidth -NT - (drook) - Jan. 28, 2020, 10:09:39 PM EST

I'm not sure of the process - (crazy) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2020, 12:12:55 AM EST

Android supports both - (drook) - Jan. 29, 2020, 12:20:18 AM EST

Get the "app" on a firestick. Works great. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Jan. 29, 2020, 09:59:21 AM EST

will try similar, thanks -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 29, 2020, 07:18:49 PM EST

had a spare roku, awesome pic on big screen, many thanks -NT - (boxley) - (18) - Jan. 29, 2020, 10:56:27 PM EST

I hope your experience w/Roku is better than mine. - (mmoffitt) - (17) - Jan. 30, 2020, 08:26:21 AM EST

Needs strong WiFi - (drook) - Jan. 30, 2020, 11:37:01 AM EST

6ft from the wireless router, will know for sure on tonights habs game -NT - (boxley) - (15) - Jan. 30, 2020, 01:38:00 PM EST

very satisfied with picture quality, thanks for the advice -NT - (boxley) - (14) - Jan. 30, 2020, 07:45:59 PM EST

How did you find a 55-inch non-"smart" TV? Thought everything in that range had Roku built in. -NT - (drook) - (13) - Jan. 30, 2020, 07:52:45 PM EST

1080 HD scepter 55inch low end price. $278 2 years ago. I dont want smart tv -NT - (boxley) - (12) - Jan. 30, 2020, 09:08:58 PM EST

I had a "smart" TV at last airbnb - (crazy) - Jan. 30, 2020, 11:53:01 PM EST

The non-smart are often more expensive, the others are subsidized -NT - (drook) - (10) - Jan. 31, 2020, 07:22:13 AM EST

Re: "the others are subsidized" - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2020, 11:09:35 PM EST

Yup.. automatic now; no need to 'write down' what you *hand-switched ..on the Channel knob. - (Ashton) - Feb. 1, 2020, 03:22:48 AM EST

^ This. - (static) - (7) - Feb. 1, 2020, 03:24:30 AM EST

My next one will likely be a projector. - (malraux) - (6) - Feb. 1, 2020, 10:22:20 AM EST

At least it is less likely they have a camera on you -NT - (crazy) - Feb. 1, 2020, 11:55:55 AM EST

If they don't already, it's coming - (drook) - (4) - Feb. 1, 2020, 01:49:02 PM EST

You can disconnect from the network before that point and it errors out but still installs - (malraux) - (3) - Feb. 5, 2020, 08:05:41 AM EST

It prompted me for wifi before prompting for the account - (drook) - (2) - Feb. 5, 2020, 09:20:38 AM EST

Yup, for sure. - (malraux) - (1) - Feb. 5, 2020, 04:41:16 PM EST

I almost did that - (drook) - Feb. 5, 2020, 07:28:30 PM EST

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