IBM's Intel Linux plans. HP/Disney's Linux plans.

Post #43,179 by brettj 6/21/02 11:58:22 PM Reply	IBM's Intel Linux plans. HP/Disney's Linux plans. [link\|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/23/25791.html\| IBM's Intel Linux plans] By Steven J.Vaughan Nichols, Newsforge.com Posted: 19/06/2002 at 08:32 GMT With all the excitement about Linux on the IBM mainframe zSeries and interest growing in the AS/400 iSeries, the popular xSeries servers are being overlooked. That's a mistake. Good, old Intel-based servers from IBM armed with Linux continue to move into small- and medium-sized businesses everywhere. This follows IBM's success in the Intel server space. In 2001, a truly awful year for Intel server sales, IBM actually managed to increase its year-to-year revenue, according to Gartner Dataquest reports. For sheer numbers of total servers shipped in the first quarter of 2002, no-name white-boxes still lead the way with 27.4% of the market; followed by Dell at 26%, with its strong Red Hat Linux support; the combined Compaq/HP close behind at 25.5%; and IBM with a mere 13.3% of the market. But, the important news here is that Dell and IBM are gaining market share and while IBM's volume may be small, its profits are high. Is this an accident, with both Dell and IBM ahead of the others in throwing their support to Linux on the server? It's no accident, according to Gartner Dataquest. While the Linux Intel server market remains small in terms of revenue, it's growing quickly and it's this growth that has enabled IBM to grab a bigger part of the server market pie. And IBM knows this. Rich Michos, IBM's v.p. of Linux servers, says, "The Intel platform is the fastest growing platform, and Linux is the fastest growing server OS. Each year Linux is becoming more and more important to IBM and it gains a bigger share." To be exact, Scott Handy, IBM's director of Linux solutions marketing, says that 27% of new servers requests are for Linux servers." And, those requests are increasing. .... Regardless of the financial details, in practice, IBM partners are moving applications to Linux. On June 12, for example, J.D. Edwards , a leading enterprise software company, announced with Ed Zanders, IBM's senior vice president and executive for its Server Group, that Edwards would be bringing its customer relationship management applications to the IBM xSeries. You can be certain that more ISVs will follow. <<<< [link\|http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25777.html\| Disney embraces HP Linux for Animation]
Post #43,186 by tjsinclair 6/22/02 1:40:37 AM Reply	I try to tell people but they don't listen My co-workers think I'm crazy when I point out items like this. If you're running a computer science program at your college or university and you're ignoring Linux, you're headed for irrelevance. At the very least, Linux offers a robust, license-friendly platform for classroom and campus infrastructure. Of course, I should talk...I'm scheduled to teach MS Visual C++/MFC and MS Access next term...yeesh. (This is not by choice, you understand.) Tom Sinclair "Subverting Young Minds Since 03/13/2000"
Post #43,189 by brettj 6/22/02 10:12:55 AM Reply	They have "stick with what ya know" syndrome. And I've had the same difficulties as you trying to convince people that Linux/Open Source is the wave of the future. People just have a hard time understanding public goods in cyberspace. Until the internet came along, public goods by private individuals was something only the likes of Howard Hughes could provide. My how times have changed seemingly overnight. It's no wonder your co-workers don't yet "get it". [link\|http://research.microsoft.com/vwg/papers/kollockeconomies.htm\| Public Goods in Cyberspace]
Post #43,190 by tjsinclair 6/22/02 11:05:12 AM Reply	Good link! Thanks... Tom Sinclair "Subverting Young Minds Since 03/13/2000"
Post #43,191 by jb4 6/22/02 11:08:58 AM Reply	Please, PLEASE, PUH-LEEEEZE.... ...don't teach MFuckingC! If you really want to subvert young minds, teach them the STL instead. Anything you can do with MFC you can do easier, cleaner, and with fewer memory leaks with the STL. Tom, I know you're a clever guy...I'm sure you can fill your class full of "Well, MFC does it this way, but if you want it to work really well, try this little STL trick instead!..." kind of stuff.... jb4 "I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch
Post #43,199 by altmann 6/22/02 2:34:49 PM Reply	Um.... Isn't MFC a mostly a GUI framework, of which container classes are a small part? -- Chris Altmann
Post #43,204 by hnick 6/22/02 3:38:11 PM Reply	That would be correct... Doesn't mean that he can't push the portable elements of STL though. Learning ONLY the Frustration class containers is detrimental to one's learning...
Post #43,314 by jb4 6/24/02 12:22:13 PM Reply	Well... ...it's actually a thin, thin, 16mm shell around the Windoze API, with some container things (I wouldn't dignify them by calling them "objects") thrown in for good (?) measure. All neatly packaged up and called an "obejct framework" by marketing droids who (along with their engineering counterparts) wouldn't know an object if it came up and (rightly) kicked any of them squarely in the ass. Yes it does, of course, wrap the GUI aspects of Windoze. It claims to do so much more, however, and while there isn't a dime's worth of difference between using the MFC or the raw API counterparts (except the API doesn leak resources nearly as much) for graphics, there is a real need for containers in Windowz, so teaching the STL can generate a real transfer of knowledge. jb4 "I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch
Post #43,214 by tjsinclair 6/22/02 7:15:15 PM Reply	Understood However, they get STL in Intermediate Programming (which I'm teaching this term using Linux and Kdevelop). The "Advanced Programming" will be mainly GUI stuff as they'll have had two terms of an ANSI C++ foundation. I push back pretty hard on teaching industry standards rather than vendors and my boss agrees with me so I (usually) get to do things my way. (Besides, she loves the fact I saved her $70K on her network infrastructure budget by using existing hardware, Solaris and Linux instead of the Win2K boxes that all the other campuses are setting up. She loves VNC, too...) Tom Sinclair "Subverting Young Minds Since 03/13/2000"
Post #43,206 by Ashton 6/22/02 4:40:03 PM Reply	Ummm.. that sounds a Lot like Teaching a class of wannabe perpetual med students, there.. to Help People and stuff: The entire repertoire of the recently-released KGB Cookbook for extracting Voluntary Confessions. I surely hope that you can find some way of simply Telling these poor inmates The Truth about what sort of idiot crap - they are going to embed into their nascent neurons - and especially: What It's Like..." to be a cubicle-serf, a lo-bid, temp commodity IT worker in a US Corporation 2002 and Next. Isn't that Your Real Job, sir? (I know your words would have to be Much subtler than these, but - where above have I exaggerated the damage you know Will follow? as inexorably as, "it will be fixed in the Next Release\ufffd") Gawd what a moral dilemma to teech in Murica 2002, where Universities are mere hiring-fodder-farms for Billy Ratt & Co and course outlines are created by unprincipled cretins. I'll add 'teaching' to my list of places to avoid, next to 'bizness'.. :( Ashton I shudder to think - don't want to Know! yet... - if Cal Tech today: offers such Crap as you are describing.. along with all the JCs across the country. Because if it DOES: we are well and truly Fucked, and 'University' now truly means only, pre-Biz-training camp for droids. {sheesh!!} Is Everything.. sucking faster now? Are we AT the event horizon of that Black Hole >\| where all thought is erased before it can begin?

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