What a fucking shitshow UK politics is, right now.
ETA: 12th, not 9th. The amendment was rejected.
ETA: 12th, not 9th. The amendment was rejected.
Looks like we're on for a GE 12th Dec.
What a fucking shitshow UK politics is, right now. ETA: 12th, not 9th. The amendment was rejected. |
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So bye-bye Boris?
Wait, when did they extend the deadline to 31 January? No, you know what? I don't care. Let me know when it's final. That means either they officially withdraw whatever article said you're leaving the EU, or gates go up at the borders. -- Drew |
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The thing I can't get my head around.
Wales and England are apparently happy to dissolve the United Kingdom at least as far as concerns Northern Ireland. In effect, NI remains in the EU, but Scotland, Wales and England are out. How do the Brexiteers square this with their demand to "be an independent country free from the tyranny of the [SIC] un-elected bureaucrats in the EU Parliament?" Does NI simply not matter to them? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Rules for thee, not for me
*We* want to be independent. No one said we wanted *you* to be independent. -- Drew |
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Also: How long will it take until the United Kingdom is down to England and Wales, minus Scotland?
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What? Isn't Wales demanding independence yet?
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Probably.
No-one cares, though, including most of the Welsh. They're probably more concerned about their utter shitshow of a performance against RSA last Sunday, and the upcoming drubbing against the All Blacks. |
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Remain won in Scotland and Northern Ireland. Only England and Wales voted Leave.
Maybe fortify/rebuild Hadrian's Wall and finally make it the border between Scotland and England, with it serving as the border between the UK and the EU as well? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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The heavily leave-voting Cumbrians and Northumbrians won't like that
None of Hadrian's Wall is in modern-day Scotland, and it has never defined the England/Scotland border. It runs roughly from Newcastle, past Carlisle, through to the Solway Firth. |
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I'm aware it never had been the Scottish border, but I thought it was close enough. Apologies.
I think the Leave/Remain voter split in your country is very like our Red/Blue voter split over here. I don't see how either set of divisions can be reconciled. I'm increasingly being led to believe that neither Brits nor Americans are governable as a whole. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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About that EU Parliament
One thing that has been mostly under the radar so far is that it gets the final say on the agreement assuming the UK Parliament accepts it. Although they can't make changes, they can block the agreement if they do not like the proposed implementation by the UK. Right now, there are decided rumblings. E.g. the UK promised an independent body to safeguard the rights of current EU ex-pats but that body is now shaping up to be a subsidiary of the Home Office. |
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Let us refresh ourselves, lest we forget.
This may well be the most insightful thing I have read last year, at least as far as its definition of conservatism is concerned: Frank Wilhoit: The Travesty of Liberalism: "There is no such thing as liberalism—or progressivism, etc. There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation. There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely. Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect"... Taken verbatim from here. I've edited the "fuck" back in. Swear or don't, but don't give me dashes/asterisks. If you follow the link to Wilhoit's original post, you'll find a lively debate in the comments, only mildly sidetracked by dreary semantic posturing. I particularly enjoyed the notion posited by "ph" that modern America is somehow wildly different to previous models. Narrator: It is not. |
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Reminds me of this
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that one line describes all of the american political landscape frm left to right
"There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect"... "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman |
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You mean
"from right to righter", of course. |
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pretty much, yeah
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman |
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Moi #1 Post 'on another venue' also--for Five Years +/- Ya gots Cuth, brother + Another word-thing:
Whore IME, from ~teen-hood: There are--here in the dis-USA--exponentially more male-Whores than ..those female sex-workers, so oft having hit bottom on the Vulturism of Das Kapital, their fake-odium a direct result of the fact that while Jingoism is the #1 affliction here, #2 is indubitably: the perpetual Hypocrisy as surrounds every action/invective/via politico or Other: the verbiage from Politicos at top on down to, 'poor-white-trash' {itself a verification that POC/people-of-colour "ARE" "Trash"} in the febrile minds of the basest-Base ever documented. (Don't wanna even start-on, "Gawd Bless 'Murica") and the ickiness of all the related *anthems spawned by that 1620s Puritan-infection which--almost alone --determined the path --> the Purest-Shit-Holedom, of now. * But moi loves the stirring anthems of Mr. Elgar, quite classier than JP Sousa's 'Stars & Stripes Forever' (or his other MIlitarismo 'marches' I learned to play). Sorry that UK isn't immune to the ['Murican On] obloquy-of: the %rampant CUNTS ['Murican Off]. {{Ahh.. to be transported way-back to a walk in the Pennines, climbing the (little hill ackshully) to Mam Tor 'summit', followed by fish n'chips-in newspaper}} .. but as my honorary-Jewish Mother Trude had commissioned, on a little round plaque: Time Stays We Go Carrion: that too shall "pass" ..like the natural-form, eh? |