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Post #431,374
by Andrew Grygus
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10/22/19 3:29:02 PM
10/22/19 3:29:02 PM
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New I finally had to install a SystemD Linux . . .
. . Debian 10.0.0 "Buster" - because older versions cannot be installed on current PCs. Fortunately SystemD is able to launch System V init programs without problems (that I know of), or my client would have been royally screwed.
Post #434,103
by scoenye
5/21/20 8:09:13 PM
5/21/20 8:09:13 PM
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New Devuan runs peachy.
I've been switching all the machinery over since last year. Took some doing to get it going on Raspberry Pi but that hurdle was passed too. The only one left to go is my wife's laptop but that is not a technical issue.

I have been using Debian since the Hamm (2.0) days. It was a surprisingly tough choice but I haven't encountered a reason to regret it so far. Stretch "stable" in particular was not very stable compared to what that used to mean and the ever increasing usurpation of essential services* by systemd with total disregard for those not on the systemd bandwagon pretty much made the jump unavoidable.

* udev in particular was nasty. Poettering's changes made it impossible to safely use LUKS encrypted partitions without systemd as of Stretch.
     Adding (at least) Linux onto a Windows laptop(1). How??? - (CRConrad) - (15) - Oct. 21, 2019, 05:31:43 PM EDT
         if you have wintel 10 you need a pro license to do hypervisory stuff - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 21, 2019, 06:34:54 PM EDT
             Yeah, I got W10 Pro. - (CRConrad) - Oct. 22, 2019, 04:26:23 AM EDT
         Got pigs on the roof? - (scoenye) - (1) - Oct. 21, 2019, 07:28:01 PM EDT
             Somewhat like I thought, somewhat not. Very useful. - (CRConrad) - Oct. 22, 2019, 06:50:30 AM EDT
         Avoid multiboot. It's a pain. - (pwhysall) - (4) - Oct. 22, 2019, 08:13:04 AM EDT
             Hmm. Other voices to agree or disagree with Peter? -NT - (CRConrad) - (3) - Oct. 22, 2019, 01:23:34 PM EDT
                 I do agree. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 22, 2019, 01:49:29 PM EDT
                 As usual, it depends on whay you want to do. - (scoenye) - (1) - Oct. 22, 2019, 10:52:50 PM EDT
                     Grafix should be OK, no NVidia. - (CRConrad) - Oct. 23, 2019, 12:01:21 PM EDT
         Also, do you have a reason to avoid systemd, other than religion? - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 22, 2019, 08:33:18 AM EDT
             For one thing, I'm an atheist... - (CRConrad) - (4) - March 14, 2020, 01:41:41 PM EDT
                 I finally had to install a SystemD Linux . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 22, 2019, 03:29:02 PM EDT
                     Devuan runs peachy. - (scoenye) - May 21, 2020, 08:09:13 PM EDT
                 turn that ipv6 crap off -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 22, 2019, 07:53:55 PM EDT
                 +10 -NT - (mmoffitt) - May 21, 2020, 01:17:28 PM EDT

I think its a fine solution to the problem that you probably shouldn't have.
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