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New Depends on the analysis.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/10/meat-wars/599728/

The new guidelines were released in Annals of Internal Medicine, a prestigious medical journal published by the American College of Physicians. Robert McLean, the ACP’s president and a rheumatologist at Yale, told me that they were the result of an editorial decision by the journal, not the ACP, but he nevertheless defended the analyses. “They did not say that eating red meat is safe,” he said. “They said that the data suggesting it’s as harmful as we once thought is inconclusive. They’re not saying to go out and eat all the red meat you want.”


Note that "international" appears to mean "US and Canada".

And

The news alerts came down to the sixth article, which was the set of “clinical guidelines.” In it, the researchers concluded that because of the “low quality evidence,” adults should continue eating meat as they do. To arrive at this conclusion, the authors used a technique known as GRADE, which subjectively evaluates different types of evidence. For example, a drug would not simply be recommended because it is effective; the amount of effect would be considered alongside things such as reliability, side effects, and other costs. Based on its analysis, the group decided that the evidence of meat’s harms to health was not strong enough to recommend that people stop eating meat altogether. And because it deemed this evidence weak, it chose to recommend that people do not attempt to change their habits.


What the articles said was that reducing meat consumption was better, but because people like to eat meat it's not worth telling them to stop completely.

Typically, a medical journal publishes its findings and then gives some analysis of what those findings might mean, but it is unusual for authors to extrapolate findings into recommendations. It is especially rare when the directives bear on heart disease, the No. 1 killer of humans. And incorporating patient preferences into the guidelines themselves is controversial. History would likely be different if findings in the 1960s that cigarettes cause lung cancer had been translated into clinical guidelines where harms were negated by people’s enjoyment of cigarettes.

In an open letter to the editors of the journal, Katz and other researchers—including one of the authors of the new analyses, John Sievenpiper—objected to the guidelines as “highly irresponsible.” In a public statement, Sievenpiper said, “Unfortunately, the leadership of the paper chose to play up the low certainty of evidence by GRADE.” He suggested that even though evidence is not certain, it is not meaningless; a lack of definitive evidence that something is harmful is not itself reason to recommend that people do that thing. Other signatories of the letter included Harvard’s chair of nutrition, Frank Hu; the former surgeon general Richard Carmona; the former American College of Cardiology president Kim Williams; and the dean of Tufts University’s School of Nutrition, Dariush Mozaffarian.


Lots of other interesting stuff in that article.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Also also
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/well/eat/scientist-who-discredited-meat-guidelines-didnt-report-past-food-industry-ties.html

Apparently there were ties between the food industry and the lead researcher. And the tool that was used, GRADE, was designed for use with clinical drug trials, not health studies.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Ties with food industry.
It was mentioned that the lead researcher had some past involvement with the sugar industry, with no evidence of any involvement with the meat industry.

On the other other hand, some of the harshest critics get considerable financial support from the walnut and peanut industries, major players in the vegetable protein movement.
New Are you saying that we have to be wary of...
...Big Nuts?
New Especially in California.
Any major industry needs to be carefully watched. Any major industry will apply political pressure to get what they want, and what they want may not be good for citizens.

California produces 1/3 of the entire world's supply of Walnuts, and 82% of the entire world's supply of Almonds. Clearly, these are major industries that need to be watched.

The US produces only 6% of the world's supply of Peanuts, but that industry has certainly had it's share of scandals, especially regarding aflatoxins and salmonella. 44% of the world's peanut production is in China and 25% in India. Food industries in those countries certainly need to be watched carefully.

Trivia: Walnuts are nuts. Almonds are peach pits, and peanuts are beans. The almond flavor of almonds comes from their cyanide content.
New Boffo-while-true.. that last :-)
New Nah, no need to invoke conspiracy theories; he's just generally saying...
...they're nuts!
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New depends on the meat as well
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
New Null hypotheses anyone?
"Just because there's no solid evidence of risk doesn't mean you should do it."

No, that kind of *is* what it means.
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     Improved science exonerates red meat. - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
         Similar article in NY Times. - (a6l6e6x) - (9)
             Depends on the analysis. - (malraux) - (8)
                 Also also - (malraux) - (5)
                     Ties with food industry. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                         Are you saying that we have to be wary of... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                             Especially in California. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                 Boffo-while-true.. that last :-) -NT - (Ashton)
                             Nah, no need to invoke conspiracy theories; he's just generally saying... - (CRConrad)
                 depends on the meat as well -NT - (boxley)
                 Null hypotheses anyone? - (drook)

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