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Post #428,225 by mmoffitt 4/3/19 12:21:11 PM 4/3/19 12:21:11 PM Reply	If this turns out to be true... then the 737 Max is a fricking Airbus with a Boeing logo! Which, I suppose shouldn't really surprise me. After all, Boeing is based in the same country that made billionaire heroes out of all the "tech giant geniuses" and technology is always great. Anyone who thinks human skill is worth anything is just an old school Luddite. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #428,283 by malraux 4/5/19 4:23:31 PM 4/5/19 4:23:31 PM Reply	Boeing has taken responsibility for both crashes now https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a27047293/boeing-apology-737-max-8-crashes/ Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #428,284 by crazy 4/6/19 8:32:45 AM 4/6/19 8:32:45 AM Reply	BS Listen hard to that video. Basically he is STILL blaming pilots saying MCAS is adding to their workload, not saying its failure is killing people. He is saying if the pilots were faster they'd still be alive. MCAS Should have 3 sensors. If they disagree, let them vote. If 2 match, use the information. If not, turn system off and alarm the hell out of the cockpit. This is simple. This is CHEAP. Systems that can kill people should FAILSAFE. Always check the goddamn data!
Post #428,285 by drook 4/6/19 8:37:13 AM 4/6/19 8:37:13 AM Reply	That's the part I don't get They say that it isn't safety critical. Okay, so it doesn't need to be there, that's fine. But as soon as you put something on the plane that can steer it, it damn well makes it safety critical. -- Drew
Post #428,290 by Another Scott 4/6/19 3:45:15 PM 4/6/19 3:45:15 PM Reply	Yeah... He's scared to death of lawsuits, so he's making mouth noises like he's taking responsibility, but he's not. Cheers, Scott.

IT.-related [Boeing]: re s/ware bug + bad pointer veils actual cause + Addendum "How To Run 2.5 yrs: - (Ashton) - (43) - March 17, 2019, 10:40:42 PM EDT

Unrolled Trevor Sumner thread. - (Another Scott) - (6) - March 17, 2019, 05:27:46 PM EDT

Just now, too: AXIOS gives a 'cubic-closest-packing'/incisive Summary of the 'issues' (an hour ago) - (Ashton) - (3) - March 17, 2019, 06:16:41 PM EDT

Won't matter - (drook) - March 17, 2019, 09:23:47 PM EDT

not really drumpf's fault he was not president in 2011 - (boxley) - March 17, 2019, 09:35:33 PM EDT

Regulation is only part of the FAA's mandate. - (mmoffitt) - March 18, 2019, 08:27:35 AM EDT

Re: On LionAir, pilots were never even told about the MCAS - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 18, 2019, 08:48:36 AM EDT

You posted a pic of that module.. which prompted moi to stare at it for some. time. - (Ashton) - March 18, 2019, 07:10:01 PM EDT

NewYorker article gets it right re. techno and the legal investigation(s) in transit - (Ashton) - (1) - March 19, 2019, 04:19:45 PM EDT

But "Bidness is SO much better at *EVERYTHING* than Government Bureacrats", no? -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 20, 2019, 09:53:27 AM EDT

They fought MCAS "more than two dozen times" and it never occurred to them to turn it off? - (mmoffitt) - (27) - March 20, 2019, 10:21:13 AM EDT

I don't follow that conclusion. - (malraux) - (26) - March 20, 2019, 12:12:54 PM EDT

Read the FARs. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - March 20, 2019, 02:32:53 PM EDT

Every plane ever made is 100% tech -NT - (drook) - (3) - March 20, 2019, 03:59:28 PM EDT

Also: vaccines for preventable childhood diseases that are otherwise miserably fatal - (pwhysall) - March 21, 2019, 03:10:24 AM EDT

Should have been more clear: Information Technology (i.e. computers and software) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 21, 2019, 03:32:38 PM EDT

Which are used to design all of these wonders of the modern age. -NT - (malraux) - March 21, 2019, 05:30:44 PM EDT

Meh. - (Another Scott) - (14) - March 20, 2019, 04:33:01 PM EDT

"Airline mechanics tried four times since Oct. 26" says it all: how Know they had Fixed it, then? - (Ashton) - March 20, 2019, 06:42:44 PM EDT

It is definitely not a "cop out". Them's the rules and every pilot knows it. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (12) - March 22, 2019, 08:44:53 AM EDT

Somehow I don't think that the pilots are going to get the lion's share of the blame in these cases. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11) - March 22, 2019, 10:38:15 AM EDT

heh. You don't know the FAA. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (10) - March 22, 2019, 01:10:18 PM EDT

Reuters today. - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 22, 2019, 04:38:41 PM EDT

I'll make you a bet. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - March 25, 2019, 11:01:59 AM EDT

Naah. We'll see. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 25, 2019, 10:51:04 AM EDT

..think that: *THIS* time, there's been far too much Ink properly flung - (Ashton) - (4) - March 25, 2019, 05:21:56 PM EDT

The FAA's mission is schizophrenic. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 26, 2019, 09:47:46 AM EDT

So promotion is the goal, safety is a tactic -NT - (drook) - (2) - March 26, 2019, 12:40:56 PM EDT

Yes, of course, Polly. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 26, 2019, 02:14:38 PM EDT

..as Murican as cyanide-laced *Apple Pie, innit? - (Ashton) - March 26, 2019, 02:34:14 PM EDT

More from Reuters. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 29, 2019, 11:19:04 AM EDT

Um, yeah, it kinda was. - (mmoffitt) - March 29, 2019, 11:34:37 AM EDT

? - (malraux) - (4) - March 20, 2019, 04:40:08 PM EDT

Did I even mention "root cause"? No. I did not. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 21, 2019, 03:43:17 PM EDT

so how do you feel about self driving tractor trailers? :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - March 21, 2019, 03:49:26 PM EDT

Have those all you want. After I'm dead. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 21, 2019, 04:55:23 PM EDT

Then be more clear with what you're saying. - (malraux) - March 21, 2019, 05:29:46 PM EDT

This logic is impeccable. Or I ain't got no cuth at all. Thanks for Beautiful concision! - (Ashton) - March 20, 2019, 06:02:04 PM EDT

More more from Reuters - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 3, 2019, 10:17:36 AM EDT

If this turns out to be true... - (mmoffitt) - (4) - April 3, 2019, 12:21:11 PM EDT

Boeing has taken responsibility for both crashes now - (malraux) - (3) - April 5, 2019, 04:23:31 PM EDT

BS - (crazy) - (2) - April 6, 2019, 08:32:45 AM EDT

That's the part I don't get - (drook) - April 6, 2019, 08:37:13 AM EDT

Yeah... - (Another Scott) - April 6, 2019, 03:45:15 PM EDT

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