Why is college admissions cheating a crime?

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Post #428,177 by drook 3/31/19 10:31:03 AM 3/31/19 10:31:03 AM Reply	Why is college admissions cheating a crime? I'm not saying it's a good thing, but why is the punishment more than getting kicked out? -- Drew
Post #428,178 by pwhysall 3/31/19 2:11:04 PM 3/31/19 2:11:04 PM Reply	Because it's actual fraud, I guess.
Post #428,180 by boxley 3/31/19 3:45:22 PM 3/31/19 3:45:22 PM Reply	I think it would be better to insist that the athletic cheats become starters for the season this page has some answers https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/college-admissions-fraud-crimes.html "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #428,183 by drook 3/31/19 8:34:55 PM 3/31/19 8:34:55 PM Reply	I'm still not getting it They were clearly lying. They were clearly bribing people. But if I do those things to get a job is that a crime, or a cause for civil action? That's what I don't get is why this is criminal, not civil. -- Drew
Post #428,185 by pwhysall 4/1/19 9:02:25 AM 4/1/19 9:02:25 AM Reply	To get a job: deception for monetary gain That's "fraud" To get a college place: deception to enter into a contract; a college place is a contractual relationship much like any other. Also fraud.
Post #428,186 by Another Scott 4/1/19 10:32:52 AM 4/1/19 10:32:52 AM Reply	Yup. Plus universities get public money and have certain responsibilities in return.
Post #428,194 by drook 4/1/19 7:02:06 PM 4/1/19 7:02:06 PM Reply	Does anyone face criminal charges for lying on a resume? -- Drew
Post #428,195 by boxley 4/1/19 7:23:07 PM 4/1/19 7:23:07 PM Reply	yes and it depends http://www.shakelaw.com/blog/lying-on-your-resume/ "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #428,196 by drook 4/1/19 7:31:45 PM 4/1/19 7:31:45 PM Reply	So state-by-state ... didn't know that was the case anywhere -- Drew
Post #428,197 by scoenye 4/1/19 7:35:12 PM 4/1/19 7:35:12 PM Reply	Mail fraud, apparently

Why is college admissions cheating a crime? - (drook) - (9) - March 31, 2019, 10:31:03 AM EDT

Because it's actual fraud, I guess. -NT - (pwhysall) - March 31, 2019, 02:11:04 PM EDT

I think it would be better to insist that the athletic cheats become starters for the season - (boxley) - (7) - March 31, 2019, 03:45:22 PM EDT

I'm still not getting it - (drook) - (6) - March 31, 2019, 08:34:55 PM EDT

To get a job: deception for monetary gain - (pwhysall) - (4) - April 1, 2019, 09:02:25 AM EDT

Yup. Plus universities get public money and have certain responsibilities in return. -NT - (Another Scott) - April 1, 2019, 10:32:52 AM EDT

Does anyone face criminal charges for lying on a resume? -NT - (drook) - (2) - April 1, 2019, 07:02:06 PM EDT

yes and it depends - (boxley) - (1) - April 1, 2019, 07:23:07 PM EDT

So state-by-state ... didn't know that was the case anywhere -NT - (drook) - April 1, 2019, 07:31:45 PM EDT

Mail fraud, apparently -NT - (scoenye) - April 1, 2019, 07:35:12 PM EDT

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