Good training for doctors too.
It's a physical skill. Smaller motion scale, but nonetheless.
Good training for doctors too. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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And disaffected couch potatoes. $DEITY knows we need more of them.
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How do you know they're either of those things?
Sounds to me like someone sucks at video games and definitely isn't salty about it. |
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I don't play video games.
Never have. I only sit at a computer if someone is paying me to do so. But, and I think you know this, we already have an alarming childhood obesity problem in this country. And yeah, I consider teenagers kids, but it doesn't matter as the obesity problem is prevalent among our teenagers as well. I don't think we should encourage them in school to be even more sedentary than they are already. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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You should look at the kids who play e-sports
They're not fat - at least, no more so than regular people, and the most successful are pretty athletic. |
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This.
My son plays video games and he's skinnier and more fit than most people you know. Anyone who watches him play a match knows why: he's all over the place while he's doing it. I play them. I'm not exactly an obese couch potato. News flash: stereotyping is bullshit. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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Anecdotal evidence != proof.
Researchers found that each hour the children played video games or watched television doubled the likelihood that the child was obese. Other factors that increased the risk of childhood obesity to a lesser extent were having a mother who worked outside the home or a father who smoked. The researchers speculate that unsupervised children may be more likely to eat large quantities of snack food after school. They also add that parental smoking may reflect a less health-conscious family environment. https://www.webmd.com/parenting/news/20040702/video-games-tv-double-childhood-obesity-risk Dr. Katherine Morrison, co-author of the study, worked with researchers from McMaster and California State University, Fullerton. She is an associate professor of pediatrics for McMaster University's Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine and a pediatric endocrinologist with the McMaster Children's Hospital. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/05/160509150010.htm The results can be confusing. Evelina Krieger, a pediatrician at Allegheny General Hospital, offers some perspective: https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2012/11/12/TV-video-games-linked-to-obesity/stories/201211120171 bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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What I see there:
Unsupervised children do things that affect them poorly. Kids shouldn't play video games too much. Physical exercise is good too. None of the above say "video gaming is always bad". Studies that look for one thing and point at it as bad are suspect, as with any food-related studies. Here we go: an hour a day of video games is fine. Getting exercise is fine too. Why not do both? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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It's highly subjective.
I doubt very much you share my profound regret of having spent so much of my brief life seated in front of a display screen, hacking away at a keyboard. To be sure, doing that allowed me to provide my family with many, many things that my father never could. In the end, though, was it worth the cost? I'd answer in the negative - which I'd bet my last nickel makes me a minority of one on this board and colors my view on time spent video gaming. Back in grad school (circa 1994 or 5), I took a course on neural networking. It was taught by a physics prof and we built a piece of software that was plugged into a multi-node system that simulated a neuron during an epileptic seizure. I was chatting with the prof one day and the topic of my job as a programmer came up. I'd had him in a handful of physics courses both as an undergrad and grad student and, knowing my general disdain for all things IT, he was surprised to hear I was a computer programmer. "YOU are a computer programmer?" he asked. "Yes," I replied. He asked, "How did that happen?" I replied, "It was a horrible accident. There were no survivors." I haven't really deviated much from that sentiment since. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Feeling a little whip-sawed.
So, is anecdotal evidence bad or good? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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I already refuted your anecdotal evidence.
Your statement that these disparate groups of professionals have all concluded the same thing because of their biases doesn't isn't a compelling argument. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I ain't got a cat in the fight over whether video gaming is "good" for young people or not, so I rely upon studies. You don't. Fair enough. I was merely speculating on why we could never reach agreement on this topic. None so blind ... and all that. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Not disagreeing with the studies.
I'm disagreeing with your interpretation of their applicability. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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beats digging ditches by far I have done heavy manual labor, happy to drool in front of a lapper
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Never >mind< the avoirdupois angle:
so inextricably entwined with the junk-food-in-excess consumed per capita in the dis-US. (But Hey! /me loves bangers™ ... despite recently learning that) they are made from the fattiest part of the beast==it's the Cheapest raw material, thus once again: $$$ rulez/nutrition.. what is That? Moi just opines that there is something gross? Evul? conscience-destroying about 'games' whose Aim so often is: destroying the [assigned-Perp] via all means imaginable, including its relatives, any nearby species ... (unnecessary that last because): why not take out their entire planet/solar-system/Galaxy? ... while yer At. It. Just sayin.. EeeuWwwww ... over thousands of hours; 'course they're just playin at bein the Beast of Belsen; couldn't Possibly harm their evanescent psyches that, 'playin' involves ceaseless (MAGA- and mega)-violence. Nope, such a thought is completely-disproven ... 'cause so few of these Act-Out (until they become the CIEIO of Something. Right?) aka Nothing exceeds like excess. |
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Unlike football, wrestling and boxing, which teach kindness and gentleness?
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..but lethality isn't their er, raison d'etre, right? (not to mention their bonus: free exercise.)
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I played football in 5th and 6th grade
You know what we chanted on the bus to away games? "Kill, maul, cripple, maim! We don't care, just win the game!" Tell me again what's not the raison d'etre? Don't believe me? Ask Carlin. -- Drew |
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I stand corrected: that is indeed the v-SUB-v Message of the game. Mea culpa: (also to the Coaches)
{{ sigh }} Violence + Testosterone go together like a tamper in a thermonucleear weapon. That's why the species has been sentenced to extinction .... just a w.a.g./I ain't got no Cosmic-hot-line {fortunately.. I can't imagine Using it !! ... |
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They know it's not real
There's no evidence supporting a link between video games and violent behaviour, just like there's no evidence supporting a link between heavy metal and satanism (the bete noir du jour of the 1980s). It ill becomes you to disregard this. Sure, you might not think it good for the soul, but I've been playing video games for forty years and my soul is just fine, so there's that. (Anecdata? We're talking about souls and shit, so my anecdote absolutely is evidence!) |
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As with anything
There will be violent people and non-violent people who play video games. The violent games will likely make the violent people worse... but so will reading about violence, watching it on television, and anything else that presents violence to a person inclined to violence. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. |
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Clockwork Orange, prison reading program ... QED
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