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New There is a hell, been there and I have pictures...
although these [link|http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com/HellPhotos/|photos of hell] I didn't take... I visited the Valley of Hinnon about twenty years ago on a Holy Land tour. Fascinating place... Liked the pyramids the best.

I've spent many hours discussing hell and
[link|http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html|I found this link when I still went to bible studies.]

Many of my "literal translation" friends don't understand that the Book is open to interpretation. Just thought this was interesting when we were discussing it. Won't be of much use to Orion as he tries to find meaning in his life, I'm affraid.
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight


P. Townshend - Won't Get Fooled Again
New Links don't work for me
but thanks anyway. I still try to find meaning to my suffering. God loves me, but apparently wants me to suffer a bit ala Job. Maybe I have 30 more years to go before I get taken away from this world, maybe 30 minutes, who knows?

I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
New We'll try it the old fashioned way
The pictures of hell link follows:
[link|http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com/HellPhotos/|http://what-the-hel.../HellPhotos/]

The summation of the hell in modern English is at:

[link|http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html|http://www.tentmake...bleHell.html]

Hope this works...

Dan
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer


You need rhino skin
If you're gonna begin
To walk
Through this world
You need elephant balls
If you don't want to crawl
On your hands
Through this world

Oh my love if I reveal
Every secret I've concealed
How many thoughts would you steal
How much of my pain would you feel

You need eagles wings
To get over things
That make no sense
In this world

You need rhino skin
If you're gonna pretend
You're not hurt by this world

If you listen long enough
You can hear my skin grow tough
Love is painful to the touch
Must be made of stronger stuff

You need rhino skin
To get to the end
Of the maze through this world

You need rhino skin
Or you're gonna give in
To the needles and pins
The arrows of sin
The evils of men
You need rhino skin


T. Petty - Rhino Skin
New Cannot find server
either my ISP is blocking the site, or it is down?

I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
New Works just fine for me! (Moz on RH7.3)
Alex

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." -- Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
New I'll post a PDF on my site tomorrow...
I would assume that you are being blocked! I have been able to get to these links on four separate ISP's... I wonder if Net Nanny thinks hell is a dirty word...

Thanks for the interest and I think you'll find the info at least interesting if not helpful. Hang in there and fight the good fight. Check out the lyrics to the Petty song on my tagline.

Dan
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer


You need rhino skin
If you're gonna begin
To walk
Through this world
You need elephant balls
If you don't want to crawl
On your hands
Through this world

Oh my love if I reveal
Every secret I've concealed
How many thoughts would you steal
How much of my pain would you feel

You need eagles wings
To get over things
That make no sense
In this world

You need rhino skin
If you're gonna pretend
You're not hurt by this world

If you listen long enough
You can hear my skin grow tough
Love is painful to the touch
Must be made of stronger stuff

You need rhino skin
To get to the end
Of the maze through this world

You need rhino skin
Or you're gonna give in
To the needles and pins
The arrows of sin
The evils of men
You need rhino skin


T. Petty - Rhino Skin
New As promised
[link|http://www.nd.edu/%7Edreck/HansonsFourWorks.pdf|To download the
PDF (1.5 MB)] version of Hell... Pretty interesting reading.

Dan
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer


You need rhino skin
If you're gonna begin
To walk
Through this world
You need elephant balls
If you don't want to crawl
On your hands
Through this world

Oh my love if I reveal
Every secret I've concealed
How many thoughts would you steal
How much of my pain would you feel

You need eagles wings
To get over things
That make no sense
In this world

You need rhino skin
If you're gonna pretend
You're not hurt by this world

If you listen long enough
You can hear my skin grow tough
Love is painful to the touch
Must be made of stronger stuff

You need rhino skin
To get to the end
Of the maze through this world

You need rhino skin
Or you're gonna give in
To the needles and pins
The arrows of sin
The evils of men
You need rhino skin


T. Petty - Rhino Skin
New Even the choice of what's there is open to interpretation
Many of my "literal translation" friends don't understand that the Book is open to interpretation.

Even the choice of Scripture might be open to interpretation. Does anyone really think the Song of Solomon was an allegory for the church (which was probably the only reason it was included) rather than just an admiring poem written to celebrate sexuality?
Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
New Nahhh... just like at IWE -
It was a bunch of the boys workin on this community project (Invent New Religion) who wanted to rub poor impotent Paul's nose in it. You know how much Fun it must have been: to twit proto-Puritans, even before they invented a name for it :-\ufffd

Prudes there always were.. with whips, yet.

[Poetic Licensiousness #66]
     Oh Hell, is there such a place? - (orion) - (20)
         Of Course there is. - (Ashton) - (2)
             How do we get out of Hell then if we create our own? - (orion) - (1)
                 No doubt one of the better Questions of all time.. - (Ashton)
         Didja watch little nickey? - (boxley) - (1)
             No, but I wanted to watch it - (orion)
         Interesting. - (static) - (9)
             There is a hell, been there and I have pictures... - (screamer) - (8)
                 Links don't work for me - (orion) - (5)
                     We'll try it the old fashioned way - (screamer) - (4)
                         Cannot find server - (orion) - (3)
                             Works just fine for me! (Moz on RH7.3) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                             I'll post a PDF on my site tomorrow... - (screamer) - (1)
                                 As promised - (screamer)
                 Even the choice of what's there is open to interpretation - (wharris2) - (1)
                     Nahhh... just like at IWE - - (Ashton)
         Grand Cayman - (lister) - (4)
             Minor correction - (Ashton) - (3)
                 Swahili - (lister) - (2)
                     translation - (boxley) - (1)
                         Close enough for government work - (Ashton)

I don’t need to see anyone celebrate breaking a huddle…
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