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New My point is...
From that Vietnamese point of view, your private car is just as much greed as Larry Ellison yahts. (Private people should use public transportation or walk, ride bycicle at best. What does that car do while you sleep? What a waste!) You are sure he is wrong. Are you sure you are right?

(Personally, I do not car how many private yahts Ellison has. As long as he does not have private Senators and Congressmen. Ah, yes, he does. Now, that's where I draw the line. I am actually with you on bashing Bill and Larry, just for different reason).
New Well I'm in a rare position this week
...as I've just sold my car and nearly everything else I can't take as carry-on luggage to make the hop across the pond to the new job. Plus I prefer public transportation and take it whenever possible.

Modern bicycles hurt my butt. Bring back the banana seat and maybe I'll ride again.

So you can't mean me. :-P

But we were discussing whats wrong with AmBiz and I reiterate that the root of it is our culture of business (to the exclusion of all else).

The average hunter gatherer works 20 hours a week.
The average farmer works 40 hours a week.
The average programmer works 60 hours a week.
What the hell are we thinking?
     What is wrong with business today? - (orion) - (54)
         Kill all the lawyers -NT - (bepatient)
         It depends on the kind of business - (ben_tilly)
         Litany of woe - (JayMehaffey)
         Oh, a very, very long time ago - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
             Re: Robber Barons - (drewk) - (5)
                 Athletes and Movie Stars - (bepatient)
                 I don't think assembly working was "the lowes-paid" - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                     That would make it even worse - (drewk)
                     Still is - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                         Found some numbers - (drewk)
         Simple answer: - (jb4) - (33)
             Shocking... - (ChrisR) - (32)
                 Yes making money - (orion)
                 Nice try... - (jb4) - (30)
                     Nope, that's *still* not the purpose of a business - (drewk) - (22)
                         Slight difference. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                             Hard to say it is for - (ben_tilly)
                         OK, fair enough... - (jb4) - (19)
                             Stockholders = Investors - (ChrisR) - (18)
                                 Good explanation. - (a6l6e6x)
                                 Yeah, I can see those dirty fingernails, alright... - (jb4) - (16)
                                     Invalid assumption - (ChrisR) - (15)
                                         OK, now I got you... - (jb4) - (3)
                                             Side bets - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                 I apparently didn't play at your casino... - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     The analogy assumes... - (ChrisR)
                                         While I agree, that's kind of orthogonal - (drewk) - (10)
                                             Mixing up cause and effect - again. - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                                                 There's a distinction - (drewk) - (5)
                                                     How the hell did it come to exist - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                                         You're still focused on *why you would invest* - (drewk) - (3)
                                                             Darn right I am. - (Arkadiy)
                                                             Those Dot Coms employed a lot of people... - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                                                 I think that your sane exposition makes clearer the - (Ashton)
                                             On movies - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                 Oh I *know* it's wishful thinking - (drewk)
                                                 "Everybody wants money. That's why they call it 'money'." -NT - (jb4)
                     It's all about making money. - (ChrisR) - (6)
                         This simple 'logic' might have sufficed before - (Ashton)
                         Bullshit. - (CRConrad) - (4)
                             You are correct sir - (orion)
                             Well said, Sir Cyclic... - (jb4)
                             Could be? - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                 A nice rebuttal.____But - (Ashton)
         It comes down to greed. - (tuberculosis) - (8)
             Re: It comes down to greed. - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                 'Discretion' manages to put an upper-limit on 'wants'. - (Ashton)
                 Re: It comes down to greed. - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                     Yes it does. - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                         I don't get your point. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                             But 'quantizing' greed may be the Red Herring - (Ashton)
                             My point is... - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                 Well I'm in a rare position this week - (tuberculosis)
         Re: What is wrong with business: the pictorial answer - (Ashton)

Specifically, why is he still allowed to make them?
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