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Post #4,262 by Another Scott 8/8/01 4:15:50 PM Reply	It is indeed scary. It's hard to imagine IP numbers not eventually being tied to owners the way he suggests. But MS having control over TCP/IP would be a very scary thing indeed. His last comment seems to suggest that he doesn't think it would work though. I'm not so sure... Interesting article. What do you folks think about it? How could MS be prevented from implementing a "secure", MS-only, "TCP/MS" and hijacking the internet protocol? Cheers, Scott.
Post #4,265 by admin 8/8/01 4:31:12 PM Reply	Nope. If you think they have antitrust problems NOW... The first time that new protocol gave anyone any problems, they'd have injunctions up the wazoo. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #4,275 by Andrew Grygus 8/8/01 4:48:38 PM Reply	But would that stop them from implementing it? They still think they're going to be able to buy a fix on this whole anti-trust thing and get it swept under the carpet. These are people who haven't the slightest hint of respect for law or government - they just think they haven't found the right people to pay off yet. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #4,280 by admin 8/8/01 4:54:32 PM Reply	Nope. But it's a few years away, and by then they will have been smacked down severely. District court injunctions are pretty quick to implement. I just don't think it's that doable on Microsoft's part. Regards, -scott anderson
Post #4,269 by Andrew Grygus 8/8/01 4:42:08 PM Reply	Well, it might be self fixing. Given the security quality of Microsoft's offerings, what's to say TCP/MS won't be hacked immediately and become the vector of choice for invading systems and transmitting worms, trojans and viruses, as well as for industrial espionage? [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

Cringley on MS's possible plan..... - (addison) - (27) - Aug. 8, 2001, 03:44:10 PM EDT

It is indeed scary. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:15:50 PM EDT

Nope. - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:31:12 PM EDT

But would that stop them from implementing it? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:48:38 PM EDT

Nope. - (admin) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:54:32 PM EDT

Well, it might be self fixing. - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 8, 2001, 04:42:08 PM EDT

MS couldn't even write a decent TCP/IP stack. - (Brandioch) - (11) - Aug. 8, 2001, 05:15:19 PM EDT

Actually, I think he has a different point. - (static) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:28:59 PM EDT

Re: MS couldn't even write a decent TCP/IP stack. - (acagle) - (8) - Aug. 15, 2001, 03:23:40 PM EDT

Re: MS couldn't even write a decent TCP/IP stack. - (tjsinclair) - (7) - Aug. 15, 2001, 06:23:14 PM EDT

Windows ME winsock.dll copyright says it's Microsoft's. - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Aug. 15, 2001, 08:00:52 PM EDT

So why does it say BSD if it's Microsoft's? -NT - (tjsinclair) - (5) - Aug. 16, 2001, 12:10:05 AM EDT

API, not implementation - (kmself) - (4) - Aug. 16, 2001, 06:30:45 AM EDT

What he said! :) I agree. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 16, 2001, 02:33:54 PM EDT

Tried a google search - (wharris2) - (2) - Aug. 16, 2001, 04:59:52 PM EDT

ID number was a point. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 16, 2001, 11:32:43 PM EDT

Re: ID number was a point. - (wharris2) - Aug. 17, 2001, 12:35:16 AM EDT

the source they released for their original winsock 89? 90? - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2001, 12:26:56 PM EDT

they tried this once before and almost lost the company - (boxley) - (9) - Aug. 8, 2001, 09:54:52 PM EDT

OT - RE; NetWare - (tjsinclair) - (8) - Aug. 8, 2001, 11:34:19 PM EDT

Killed? No . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:52:11 AM EDT

So nothing's changed - (tjsinclair) - Aug. 9, 2001, 10:11:41 AM EDT

Actually... - (addison) - (5) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:03:15 AM EDT

All the more reason . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Aug. 9, 2001, 11:53:39 AM EDT

Pure genius? - (wharris2) - (3) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:01:11 PM EDT

It may seem stupid to technical person . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 9, 2001, 12:16:43 PM EDT

You mean the DB2 ads, right? - (wharris2) - Aug. 9, 2001, 01:23:40 PM EDT

hey, I still have one of those OS/2 shirts.... -NT - (cforde) - Aug. 9, 2001, 01:02:43 PM EDT

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