Post #426,025
10/24/18 3:57:55 AM
10/24/18 3:57:55 AM
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In practice, though, the speed really really doesn't matter
It's the pricing that gets me.
£750 for what is basically a mid-range 2015 phone with a screaming fast processor, but kneecapped in just about every other way?
Ridiculous.
I dislike this trend. Apple has huge influence and moves the market, and I'd rather they put out an actually-affordable phone to force the market in a better (i.e. more consumer-friendly) direction. Just moving the ASP upwards (of anything other than bargain basement Chinesium Android horrorphones) isn't right (although it's obviously sound business sense).
OTOH, it's already hard to see £800 worth of value difference between the Xr and the XS Max, so perhaps the price floor has got to stay high - comparing an Xr at £500 to the top-line Xs Max at £1500 might lead even the most dedicated Apple fan to go "Another thousand quid? really, Apple?"
OT: Apple's product naming for this generation is dumber than a box of rocks.
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Post #426,026
10/24/18 7:27:29 AM
10/24/18 7:27:29 AM
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1) Completely agree on the naming
2) I just read an article about how Google is changing the value proposition with the Pixel line. Yes, they have top-end hardware specs, but three years of guaranteed (and fast) updates means your device *stays* cutting edge far longer.
And you can buy last year's model, or a used 2-year-old, and still have the latest software.
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Post #426,027
10/24/18 7:31:48 AM
10/24/18 7:31:48 AM
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Heh
The gimped experience that is Stock Android isn't my idea of "cutting edge", but yeah, you're right, in principle. But then there's this bullshit that Google is pulling.
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Post #426,028
10/24/18 7:38:09 AM
10/24/18 7:38:09 AM
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Yup, that's some BS
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Post #426,044
10/24/18 9:31:46 PM
10/24/18 9:31:46 PM
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Google has long bean jealous of Apple's control.
And with regards to OS updates, I don't blame them. My Sony is still a good piece of hardware and it's only 4 years old. But Sony haven't released a newer OS for it than 5.1. :-/
Wade.
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Post #426,029
10/24/18 8:40:24 AM
10/24/18 8:40:24 AM
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Apple tried "cheap" once...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_5C It didn't go so well. Agreed that phone prices are kinda nuts. But they really are computers now and not "just" phones. Cutting-edge ones should be expensive, but diminishing returns are fast approaching. Within 5 years, I expect that 5G, good screens, day-long batteries are going to be common and then maybe there will be more competition on price. Maybe. I paid around $600 for my V30S and that seems like a fair price to me. Except for the fact that OS and security updates are slow to non-existent. Grrr... I didn't win the lottery last night, maybe tonight!! If so, maybe a Pixel 3 is in my future, or maybe not. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #426,030
10/24/18 9:22:44 AM
10/24/18 9:22:44 AM
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OT: Apple's product naming for this generation is dumber than a box of rocks.
Yep! Just used the Time Machine on my MacBook Pro. :)
But, at least the essential backup function is built into the OS and not a third party add on. Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #426,033
10/24/18 12:45:18 PM
10/24/18 12:45:18 PM
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Re: In practice, though, the speed really really doesn't matter
As for the price you pay a monthly fee which for me is $50 a month and in 12 months I can trade it in for a new model or keep it for another 12 months and pay it off and it's mine
Yes I know it's a lot of money but that seems to be the trend here all phones are going up We were just spoiled for paying $200 and again I've been very happy with my Apple phones and I like the way now I can upgrade every year without it costing me an arm and a leg "Pictures are better then words because some words are big and hard to understand"
Peter Griffin (Family Guy)
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