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New Bullshit.
Your statement is without merit. I've pointed out many, many times that I could have voted for Hillary Clinton more than 500,000 times and she still would have lost Indiana. So, if my ballot would have counted for 600,000 votes you'd make a decent point. Speaking of things that were "perfectly obvious well before the election", how about this from February 2, 2016?
If Bernie wins, the general's a crapshoot. If Hillary wins, count on four (at least) years of YAN Republican Asshat. Hillary cannot carry a single state in what we commonly refer to as "Jesusland" and you need at least a state or two in "Jesusland" to win the White House. At best, Hillary's results will mirror Gore's.

http://forum.iwethey.org/forum/post/407888/

WHO is it that missed the obvious?

You guys have a lot of damned gall belittling my ability to "understand how things work in politics."
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New You didn't think Obama would win Indiana.
Your willingness to throw out everything in the name of your distorted idea of purity is dangerous. The GOP is suppressing the vote and they are doing it because they know they can no longer win fair elections. Your arguments enable them.

Even in your beloved heartland of Indiana.

You need to wake up.

Grr.

Cheers,
Scott.
New And he didn’t in 2012.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New I was speaking of a class . . .
. . a class within which you are a card carrying member.

The class could have turned the election - but didn't bother. They deserve what they're getting, but unfortunately, they are dragging a lot of innocent people down with them.

I am speaking also of the other class - your "Jesusland". A class of people who deliberately turn off their brains with Belief. They want to be ceretain they are absolutely Right, no matter how wrong they are. This is Belief they claim to be Christian, but it is nothing of the sort - I suggest they read the book to find out why - but reading the book might cause thinking, which would be unthinkable.

If Christianity has actual validity, they will all be going straight to Hell. Unfortunately, I can't count on that, because I'm not a Believer.
New .
Edit: I'm actually sorry for the unedited post.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt July 2, 2018, 08:08:41 AM EDT
Expand Edited by mmoffitt July 2, 2018, 12:11:31 PM EDT
New Well.. ...
At peak-provocation via some fatuous Orange utterance, my own inner-Freedom Fighter has had the very same closing thoughts which are--I am unanimous in that
--true for very many Americans AND very-many Others.
FWIW
     Get your armbands and boots now while they last! - (mmoffitt) - (24)
         Yes, the Trifecta COMPLETES: Two-Nations under one Tyrant.. Unless.. - (Ashton)
         "Memories, like the corners of my mind, misty water colored memories, ..." - (Another Scott) - (6)
             In my defense. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                 You're still doing it. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     I don't think I'll be joining any effort to "incrementally" make America any better. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         Then, unfortunately, you are an enabler of those who want to turn back the clock. :-( - (Another Scott)
                 Well then, while your chops as Perfect-Prophet were, in '15 ~~as imperfect as the others - (Ashton)
                 Just checked the link.. as Boffo a recap as one might wish ..while-cringing at its truthiness - (Ashton)
         How fortunate it is… - (rcareaga) - (9)
             It just needs to be said. - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Yup. -NT - (rcareaga)
                 (dup, somehow) -NT - (rcareaga)
                 Bullshit. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     You didn't think Obama would win Indiana. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         And he didn’t in 2012. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     I was speaking of a class . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         . - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                             Well.. ... - (Ashton)
         Pretty quiet here, in these parts as.. - (Ashton) - (5)
             I had to get away. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                 Nit - (drook) - (3)
                     3 things, you forgot get high -NT - (boxley)
                     Not my experience in other parts of the world. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     The McGuffin is: our Puritan roots. - (Ashton)

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