Okay, it doesn't work for ambulances either. But those are outliers.

Post #422,967 by mmoffitt 3/22/18 2:55:22 PM 3/22/18 2:55:22 PM Reply	Okay, it doesn't work for ambulances either. But those are outliers. The vast majority of people who are in their cars on the San Diego, Harbor, Santa Monica, Riverside, etc. on a twice daily basis don't really need to be there. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #422,971 by Ashton 3/22/18 4:16:12 PM 3/22/18 4:16:12 PM Reply	We also have to look at US geography espcially when comparing with the "States" of the EU, generally the best showcase of what Bitchin-mass-transit Can be. We are er, Hyarge . Still and all IMhO we bloody well Need sane modrin mass transit in all high-density/city+suburbs-wide area: such a monumental transfiguration would free the "free-"ways for folks in similar positions as Andrew's. (Yeah.. after the s-f-Vulgarian siphons off all available deficit-spending to build his safe-to-Use nukes. And 100 other insanities. As we seep daily into The Swamp that is the mind-fluff of some 40% of the inmates.) Just another day in the Land of the most odious of the Pecksniffs..
Post #423,045 by pwhysall 3/26/18 3:22:50 AM 3/26/18 3:22:50 AM Reply	There's no reason not to do it, other than infatuation with the car because reasons The vast majority of journeys are short - basically commuting or local shopping. An interesting indicator of this is that most crashes take place within a mile or two of the driver's home. No-one apart from the idiot fringe is suggesting that all personal transportation be replaced by mass transit. There are lots of people whose journeys are ad hoc, and these people need personal transportation. HOWEVER Most people could go to and from their place of work via mass transit, if only it existed. This would vastly reduce the number of vehicles on the road, especially at peak times. Look at London and NYC - these are places where sure, you could drive to work if you wanted, but that'd be stupid, because the mass transit infrastructure exists at a point where for most people, it's the better option not to. You don't have to build out a London-style underground system - just regular buses, trams and trains will do.
Post #423,046 by crazy 3/26/18 5:11:56 AM 3/26/18 5:11:56 AM Reply	Disagree We have about 80 years of contruction over vast areas that place suburbs around cities. The majority of the well paying jobs are distant from the housing. And distant in a manner that a 45 minute car commute would turn into a 3 hour multipoint public transportation nightmare. Your attempt to compare to your tiny island's reasonable solutions to our geography does not mesh.
Post #423,082 by pwhysall 3/27/18 6:31:22 AM 3/27/18 6:31:22 AM Reply	Re: Disagree Well, you're fucked then :)
Post #423,086 by pwhysall 3/27/18 6:45:10 AM 3/27/18 6:45:10 AM Reply	Also 45 minute commute? Fuck that shit right in the ear. I get grumbly when an additional 10 minutes means I spent half an hour getting to work.
Post #423,102 by malraux 3/27/18 5:18:35 PM 3/27/18 5:18:35 PM Reply	45-60 for me. Typically 40 on the way home depending on when I leave. In Detroit, which has nothing for mass transit worth talking about. In DC I had a 1.5 hour commute by bus and subway and it was great: plenty of time to read, relax, whatever. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #423,108 by crazy 3/27/18 7:22:20 PM 3/27/18 7:22:20 PM Reply	Yeah, I enjoyed my nyc commute. Wife dropped off at train (5 min from house). 5 minute wait, then 72 minute ride. 10 minute walk through nyc. Reverse was a PACKED train though, hot and sweaty, and then maybe a bus ride home. Time on the train was spent reading and listening to music. BUT: I justified the time spent on the commute as worth it because they were paying me stupid money. And the job was fun. I doubt I'd have the same calculation now.
Post #423,107 by boxley 3/27/18 6:54:56 PM 3/27/18 6:54:56 PM Reply	54 miles 40-45 minutes 3.5 hours 1 way public transpo the a 2.5 mile hike. no thanks "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

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