Not so analogous to containerization, then.

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by CRConrad

6/13/02 5:29:11 PM

6/14/02 6:11:40 PM

Not so analogous to containerization, then.

Doug describes XML:

a tag based meta-language [...] allows the creation of self describing data.

So "XML" per se doesn't mean ready-made standardized "containers" (they're in the DTD/Schema), but more of a *container-construction kit*.

If y[ou l]ook at it that way, are you still so sure it will "revolutionize" IT like containerization did shipping? Do you believe shipping would have been commoditized if there had only been a standard for *how* to build containers, but no actual standard for the resulting containers themselves?

(Needless to say, since you already inferred it from my tone above, I don't think so.)

[EDIT: Typo; "you look" inadvertently contracted to "yook".]

Christian R. Conrad
Of course, who am I to point fingers? I'm in the "Information Technology" business, prima facia evidence that there's bats in the bell tower. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=27764|Andrew Grygus]

Edited by CRConrad June 14, 2002, 06:11:40 PM EDT

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Post #42,288

by dmarker2

6/13/02 7:58:17 PM

Re: Actually from several aspects

I have just obtained an excellent article from Harvard Business review that describes in a good way
the impact of XML / Web Services. When I can get the soft copy I will post a link or an extract.

It puts the impact this way

"End of proprietary computing as we know it"

As regard containerization, there are many comparisons & aspects to an anology. I have been working
on bring these together into a presentation.

Cheers

Doug

Possible effects from any drastic changes to IT - (dmarker2) - (20) - June 8, 2002, 11:57:29 PM EDT

This reminds me of COBOL in the 60's. - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - June 8, 2002, 11:18:34 PM EDT

Re: Just ask a Smalltalk programmer - 'ST is sooo simple' - (dmarker2) - June 8, 2002, 11:51:18 PM EDT

Sort of - (orion) - June 9, 2002, 06:54:42 PM EDT

What is IT, and how does this make them obsolete? - (ben_tilly) - (12) - June 9, 2002, 12:41:14 AM EDT

Re: Am sure we agree, issue is the question - (dmarker2) - (10) - June 9, 2002, 03:35:26 AM EDT

XML can't kill IT - (ben_tilly) - (9) - June 10, 2002, 07:57:15 AM EDT

Re: I am sure that is agreed (?) - (dmarker2) - (7) - June 10, 2002, 08:33:20 AM EDT

To quote one writer on the subject . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - June 10, 2002, 11:13:02 AM EDT

XML is a container for content - (orion) - (5) - June 10, 2002, 11:33:09 AM EDT

Re: XML is ... Some of the definitions - (dmarker2) - (4) - June 11, 2002, 10:37:28 AM EDT

Gracias. - (Ashton) - (1) - June 11, 2002, 08:48:46 PM EDT

Re: XML is ..., WebSvcs are ... (part 2) ... - (dmarker2) - June 12, 2002, 12:40:15 AM EDT

Not so analogous to containerization, then. - (CRConrad) - (1) - June 14, 2002, 06:11:40 PM EDT

Re: Actually from several aspects - (dmarker2) - June 13, 2002, 07:58:17 PM EDT

Re: A couple of points you raise ... - (dmarker2) - June 10, 2002, 08:57:38 AM EDT

Well, it won't affect my job - (tonytib) - June 9, 2002, 03:54:48 AM EDT

Web Services Certainly NOT! Cheaper Labor And Attitudes! - (gdaustin) - (3) - June 10, 2002, 11:55:52 AM EDT

I think there are two problems here - (drewk) - (1) - June 10, 2002, 12:16:53 PM EDT

Perhaps I should have qualified.... - (gdaustin) - June 10, 2002, 12:55:20 PM EDT

Health care - (ChrisR) - June 10, 2002, 03:07:27 PM EDT

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