Post #421,251
11/12/17 1:30:14 PM
11/12/17 1:30:14 PM
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The man was evil personified.
I'm just finishing Winston Churchill's WW-II series.
In 1944 as the Soviets were pushing the Germans West in Poland, Stalin's guy were encouraging the people of Warsaw to start an uprising against the Germans. After all, they could hear the distant artillery bombardment of the approaching Soviets. But, after the uprising started, the Soviets stopped dead in their tracks. Furthermore, they did not send any supplies and prohibited the other Allies from using any Soviet controlled ground to be used for supplying the Poles. It was a long flight from Allied controlled Italy. So the Poles had very minor help as the German's turned on them with a fury.
The whole idea was to get the Germans to wipe out the nationalist Poles so that when the Soviets arrived in Warsaw, the Polish Communists could take over.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #421,256
11/12/17 5:16:46 PM
11/12/17 5:16:46 PM
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The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, nothing more
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Post #421,263
11/13/17 9:20:19 AM
11/13/17 9:20:19 AM
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But not what Radio Moscow was saying at the time.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #421,264
11/13/17 9:24:54 AM
11/13/17 9:24:54 AM
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Fake news!
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Post #421,259
11/12/17 11:15:37 PM
11/12/17 11:15:37 PM
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Pole-axed
Andrzej Wajda’s 1957 film Kanal tells the story very vividly: September 1944—the citizens of Warsaw are eight weeks into their valiant, if somewhat foolhardy, uprising against the Third Reich. If the resistance fighters can only hold out until the Soviet force massed just outside the city come to their rescue...but wait! The Red Army chooses this time to sort its sock drawers, do some laundry, catch up on back episodes of The Sopranskis, freeing the Hun to put paid to the Poles in job lots. What rotten luck! The film follows a dead-ender band of partisans as they dodge the Krauts, retreating finally to the insalubrious environment of the Warsaw sewers, which make Orson Welles’ desperate flight at the end of The Third Man look like a stroll through a semiconductor “clean room.” cordially,
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Post #421,266
11/13/17 12:34:20 PM
11/13/17 12:34:20 PM
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Some of the reverence Stalin still enjoys, while I disagree whole-heartedly, I understand.
I've heard some Russians say that Stalin inherited a nation with wooden plows and left in its place a nuclear power. There's no arguing that he did drag the Soviet Union into the twentieth century. But the cost was, quite obviously, far too great.
bcnu, Mikem
It's mourning in America again.
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Post #421,270
11/13/17 6:25:18 PM
11/13/17 6:27:46 PM
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Stalinist cost-benefit
I once saw a visual rendering that put it this way: imagine a graph depicting human suffering in the west during the industrial revolution, with the horizontal axis representing a century-and-a-half of time, and the vertical the degree of suffering, rendered as a rising and then as a descending curve. A second graph depicts the industrialization of the USSR under Stalin, with the horizontal axis much shorter—twenty-five years—and the vertical axis much higher, since even capital’s direst Gilded Age counteroffensives did not involve shooting fifteen hundred people a day. The point being made (with what validity I am not prepared to speculate) was that the areas enclosed by the two curves were roughly equivalent.
Stalin seems to me, on the basis of Kotkin’s account, to have been the indispensable man when it came to Stalinism: an able, energetic, superhumanly determined character absolutely and sincerely a believer in Marxist-Leninist theory, who willed into being the USSR as a major industrial power. We may question whether absent its transformation in that harrowing crucible (if you will pardon the blending of an agricultural and an industrial metaphor, which seems not inapropos here in this context), a Soviet Union capable of turning back the German onslaught would have emerged from a kinder, gentler alternative Bolshevik leadership. If, as I believe, the answer is “probably not,” it may be argued that, given the character of Hitler’s regime and of what it might have achieved with a defeated, supine Russia as its granary, the cost, while steep, was not “too high.” I admit that if one happened to have starved to death during collectivization, this does not make for a particularly persuasive case.
I hope I do not appear to be defending the dreadful man, but for better or for worse, we have all of us been born into the world he had a major part in creating. Kotkin limns a character impossible to admire, but who compels our appalled respect. And I speak here as a US citizen of Truman Administration vintage, and accordingly marinated in Cold War mythos (North American edition). I can imagine how the despot’s accomplishments resonate today in the minds of Russian nationals of my age, who remember when their country made its enemies tremble.
cordially,
Edited by rcareaga
Nov. 13, 2017, 06:27:46 PM EST
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Post #421,276
11/13/17 11:27:09 PM
11/13/17 11:27:09 PM
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He had his breakdown.
Stalin’s BreakdownDuring his thirty-year rule of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin succeeded in stifling all opposition. There was never a serious threat to his leadership. But there was one occasion, at the end of June 1941, when Stalin suffered what may have been a mental breakdown. When, after three days, his colleagues came for him, he fully expected to be arrested.
But they hadn’t come to arrest him, they’d come to plead with him, begging him to return and take control. Stalin had survived and was to remain in power until his death twelve years later. But what had brought about Stalin’s temporary collapse, and why did his Politburo colleagues fail to bring to an end his murderous rule? “We were witness to his moment of weakness,” recalled Beria later, “and for that he’ll never forgive us.”
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #421,277
11/14/17 12:30:20 AM
11/14/17 12:30:20 AM
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I know that story
And his Politburo colleagues did not come to arrest him because they had all either been psychologically broken by him, or owed their careers to him, and all recognized that he was the only man who could hold together the state he had created in his cruel image, and deploy it against the existential Nazi threat.
cordially,
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Post #421,289
11/14/17 7:35:52 PM
11/14/17 7:39:22 PM
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"le mot juste" precísamente [Ed: blongs under Rand's nonpareil phrase/bad moi.]
(phrases too..)
One wag asserts, Flaubert spent his life agonizing over "le mot juste." Now Madame Bovary is available in 20 different crappy English translations, so now it doesn't really make a damn bit of difference. (but I digress and disagree, anyway.)
Edited by Ashton
Nov. 14, 2017, 07:39:22 PM EST
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Post #421,281
11/14/17 8:18:53 AM
11/14/17 8:18:53 AM
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A brilliant description: "appalled respect." Exactly my sense of the man.
bcnu, Mikem
It's mourning in America again.
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