the obituaries

Post #420,624 by rcareaga 10/4/17 11:46:59 AM 10/4/17 11:46:59 AM Reply	the obituaries I’ve looked at the news accounts listing the dead, and notice that every one of them for whom a description was provided appears to have been a wonderful person, a paragon. Just once, I’d like to read a survivor saying something like, “Well, actually, Fred was a bit of a swine and a blowhard. He took the air right out of the room. I mean, I’m sorry he’s dead and all, but Jesus, what a fucking jerk he was.” cordially,
Post #420,625 by drook 10/4/17 12:44:35 PM 10/4/17 12:44:35 PM Reply	I've been saying that about movies for years When talking about real people, it's entirely possible that everyone willing to make a statement really believes the subject is a nice person. But in fiction, just once I'd like to see a movie where there's a major character who's a complete asshole but isn't guilty of the whodunnit. -- Drew
Post #420,636 by static 10/5/17 7:24:14 AM 10/5/17 7:24:14 AM Reply	I don't think Hollywood would like that. It's quite a fundamental movie trope, after all. Wade.
Post #420,637 by CRConrad 10/5/17 7:53:32 AM 10/5/17 7:53:32 AM Reply	Au contraire, I think I've seen it quite a lot in recent years. The "bad guy" who turns out not to be _the_ bad guy, that is. At least in Nordic, British, and German stuff, but American too IIRC. (All more TV than cinema.) -- Christian R. Conrad Same old username (as above), but now on iki.fi (Yeah, yeah, it redirects to the same old GMail... But just in case I ever want to change.)
Post #420,657 by static 10/6/17 2:44:15 AM 10/6/17 2:44:15 AM Reply	Yes, I was referring specifically to US cinema. Which is why I said "Hollywood". US TV, particularly from studios like HBO (where a show's whole season is often paid for upfront), is more daring. Has been for quite a few years. Non-US TV and non-US cinema are also more experimental. Wade.
Post #420,651 by boxley 10/5/17 8:48:53 PM 10/5/17 8:48:53 PM Reply	gary oldman "state of grace" "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #420,654 by drook 10/5/17 10:23:17 PM 10/5/17 10:23:17 PM Reply	Netflix doesn't have it, will check the library -- Drew
Post #420,663 by boxley 10/6/17 6:55:41 PM 10/6/17 6:55:41 PM Reply	the very best "last 5 minutes of a movie" "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #420,665 by boxley 10/7/17 1:01:01 AM 10/7/17 1:01:01 AM Reply	also if you watch the movie, guess who he based his character on."no googling" I heard it in an interview, in retrospect it fit "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #420,626 by mmoffitt 10/4/17 1:51:19 PM 10/4/17 1:51:19 PM Reply	Channeling Carlin circa 1978? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meAKQs0_srM&feature=youtu.be&t=298 bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #420,629 by Ashton 10/4/17 3:35:42 PM 10/4/17 3:35:42 PM Reply	I Salute your orderly dbase of bitchin links! George, a Loss regretted by millions worldwide, in all truthiness. Cthulhu! does moi Miss the sucker :-{ (within this very clip, he deals with reincarnation and on-into The Perfect Murder™) /Me wants a copy of your collection! The Carlin Tapes urls, each with a few well-chosen words re The Gems within. Still ...guess we'll always have: that actual B&W video of Tom Lehrer's opus, now so Apropos: We Will All Go Together When We Go We don't get to see: [Carlin On Drumpf ... in Carnegie Hall AND Parliaments across the world.] more's the pity.
Post #420,638 by mmoffitt 10/5/17 8:05:58 AM 10/5/17 8:05:58 AM Reply	No dbase. Just memory. :0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #420,645 by Ashton 10/5/17 2:51:59 PM 10/5/17 2:51:59 PM Reply	Smart-ass.. (Takes One to Know one) Heh, I've got LOTS of stuff in 'memory'; the trick is in Finding it innit? Are we all heading for --> W.O.M. er Write-Only ... (in case you forgot that ;^> I Who ~~Was?~~ Be.

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