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Post #419,952 by Andrew Grygus 8/24/17 2:59:27 PM 8/24/17 2:59:27 PM Reply	There is also significant difference among . . . Waffen SS (regular soldiers in the field), Allgemeine SS (General SS, political and administrative) SS-Totenkopfverbände (ran the death camps). In Germany Waffen SS veterans have long campaigned for veteran's benefits, as they considered themselves soldiers like other soldiers, not involved with the nasty stuff.
Post #419,955 by mmoffitt 8/24/17 3:43:17 PM 8/24/17 3:43:17 PM Reply	Heh. "Administrative". You mean like scheduling trains? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #419,956 by Andrew Grygus 8/24/17 4:29:23 PM 8/24/17 4:29:23 PM Reply	Yup, and placing orders for more ovens. The Waffen SS was not entirely innocent either, having participated in several massacres, but blame can be more specifically placed there. A major weakness of the "I was just following orders" defense is that many German soldiers did refuse to participate in executions, and were not punished for that.
Post #419,979 by scoenye 8/25/17 3:54:24 PM 8/25/17 3:54:24 PM Reply	Disctinctions are of scale only The Waffen SS participated in the Einszatsgruppe and its vagaries towards the occupied populations and opposing forces are notorious.

of cornerstones and plinths - (rcareaga) - (29) - Aug. 18, 2017, 03:57:08 PM EDT

Re: the common soldiers of the Waffen SS - (mmoffitt) - (28) - Aug. 18, 2017, 04:19:13 PM EDT

Yeah, Bitburg - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2017, 06:35:56 PM EDT

I remember Ross. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 21, 2017, 08:30:40 AM EDT

How is that hypocritical? - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 18, 2017, 08:06:30 PM EDT

"widely suspected" - (Ashton) - Aug. 18, 2017, 10:07:59 PM EDT

And yet, he persisted. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2017, 08:47:32 AM EDT

(I bloody-well visited THAT pernicious Place/also described an odd event--in these parts.) - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2017, 05:27:33 PM EDT

Huge diff. Says so right in the first sentence of the NYT article: - (CRConrad) - (21) - Aug. 21, 2017, 04:56:43 AM EDT

Ellie Wiesel thought I did. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Aug. 22, 2017, 08:36:37 AM EDT

Well-done, young Nazi-Stalker! (one of the few [+] connotations of that word? :-) -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 21, 2017, 05:13:19 PM EDT

They were a) actual corpses, not statues; b) 2.5 % Waffen-SS, 97.5 % Wehrmacht. - (CRConrad) - (18) - Aug. 24, 2017, 09:38:59 AM EDT

Re: He could be wrong, and there he was; - (mmoffitt) - (17) - Aug. 24, 2017, 11:49:18 AM EDT

Intent matters - (drook) - (12) - Aug. 24, 2017, 12:29:29 PM EDT

Yes, it does. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Aug. 24, 2017, 01:06:29 PM EDT

Do you know the difference between "action" and "intent"? -NT - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 24, 2017, 02:23:36 PM EDT

One more time, slowly. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 24, 2017, 03:40:40 PM EDT

You're still just as wrong. - (CRConrad) - (5) - Aug. 25, 2017, 02:17:36 AM EDT

Re: You're still just as wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 25, 2017, 08:30:12 AM EDT

Heh - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 25, 2017, 09:49:55 AM EDT

I'm sorry. I didn't know you were so unfamiliar with English. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 25, 2017, 10:01:57 AM EDT

More - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 25, 2017, 10:13:21 AM EDT

Preamble qualified all of that as "In my view." HTH. Again. Context is everything. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 25, 2017, 10:44:58 AM EDT

There can be 'intent' ... clouded with umm.. ... insouciance? - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 24, 2017, 02:47:35 PM EDT

You sure you want to go there? - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 25, 2017, 09:56:56 AM EDT

Umm, where is that 'Writ-for-textbook-adornment' ? - (Ashton) - Aug. 25, 2017, 04:14:48 PM EDT

There is also significant difference among . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Aug. 24, 2017, 02:59:27 PM EDT

Heh. "Administrative". You mean like scheduling trains? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 24, 2017, 03:43:17 PM EDT

Yup, and placing orders for more ovens. - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 24, 2017, 04:29:23 PM EDT

Disctinctions are of scale only - (scoenye) - Aug. 25, 2017, 03:54:24 PM EDT

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