What "enemy" is that, (tt)Lord Protector?

Post #41,957 by jb4 6/11/02 12:26:43 PM Reply	What "enemy" is that, (tt)Lord Protector? "We have acted with legal authority both under the laws of war and clear Supreme Court precedent, which establishes that the military may detain a United States citizen who has joined the enemy and has entered our country to carry out hostile acts," Ashcroft said. What war? I'm not talking about meeja presentation, I'm talking about a Declaration of War (you know, per the Constitution?). We're not at war. So the "laws of war" do not apply. You don't get to suspend the Constitution at your convenience, John! What enemy? Since we're not at war, we don't have an enemy. You don't get to suspend the Constitution at your convenience, simply by waiving some red-letter words around an a meeja event, John! Sorry! Do your homework, moron! jb4 "I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch
Post #41,969 by wharris2 6/11/02 1:26:53 PM Reply	Declaration of War Even with a declaration of war, most rights still shouldn't be able to be suspended - remember one of the reasons for the original war of independance from England was their taking over quarters and using private property to house their army. There's provision for "in a manner prescribed by law" in many of the amendments, such as housing soldiers, but (for instance) much of the suppression Abraham Lincoln did was arguably blatently illegal and enormously expanded the powers of the Federal government far beyond even the most "strong government" proponent would have believed. Famous last RPG quotes: "I'll just shoot this fireball down the dungeon passageway..."
Post #41,983 by Brandioch 6/11/02 4:26:35 PM Reply	WDY(both)HASM!?! Oh, and the "in a manner prescribed by law" could be construed to mean that such alterations would have to be processed through the usual channels. You know, start in Congress/Senate, signed into law by President, judged Constitutional or not by the USSC. But that's only my interpretation of it. PS: I fully support Big Brother's indefinate detainment without legal recourse for all enemies of the State. I (heart) the Stazi!
Post #41,999 by jb4 6/11/02 6:03:19 PM Reply	You FUEL! How COULD you be so Pollyannaish?!? jb4 "I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch

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