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New This reminds me of COBOL in the 60's.
COmmon Business Oriented Language for those who not familiar with the acronym derivation.

It is so English (language)-like most anyone could write an application. It reads so easy, no documentation is required. Even management could read the code!

Right!

A little skepticism is good thing.
Alex

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." -- Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
New Re: Just ask a Smalltalk programmer - 'ST is sooo simple'

One ST person once said he was sure his 6 year old could write in Smalltalk because it was so simple.

After 9 years of working with ST I love its OOT elegance but to call wrting ST code simple proved to me that this particular person lived on another planet despite having a body on this one.

I can follow Java a lot easier than I can follow Smalltalk but I prefer to write in Smalltalk.

And although starting out decades ago with COBOL I still write with it today because it does actually force some degree of self documentation but I think the same comments about Smalltalk's simplicity also apply to the simplicity of Cobol (grin).

Cheers

Doug
New Sort of
only nobody sane would want to debug a 20,000 line COBOL program that could have done the same thing in C in under 2000 lines. :) The debugging was the hard part, because they had to do a memory dump and then do some math to figure out what the values were in some cases. Almost anyone could read, write, and code COBOL code, but the few that knew how to debug it were the good ones that they kept on.

The same thing with the GUI, almost anyone can use a computer now. In the Non-GUI days (CLI, Command Line Interface), users had to remember command words and operators and pipe symbols, etc. Very few could do it, and most ran batch files or programs that someone else wrote for them. With MacOS and MS-Windows, more people got to use computers without knowing how they worked. Those that knew how they worked, debugged OS issues and created the IT/IS Departments.

Visual BASIC is the easiest language that I know of to learn besides COBOL. Basically anyone can create a VB program by dragging and dropping controls on a form. The hard part is adding the code to check those forms, and do calculations, and formulas and other stuff that the luddite programmers don't know how to do. Again, the hardest part is the debugging. But at least VB doesn't require a hex dump to debug, it can go step by step over the code and highlight the most recent code before it is executed. Which makes debugging a lot easier.

The main threat to IT is the H1B Visa Workers and IT Sweat Shops in other countries taking the IT work away from US Citizens. Nothing against those people, but they are being used by the firms to shaft the other workers. What are you going to do when you have to train an H1B worker to do your job, or they move it overseas to another IT worker?

I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
     Possible effects from any drastic changes to IT - (dmarker2) - (20)
         This reminds me of COBOL in the 60's. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
             Re: Just ask a Smalltalk programmer - 'ST is sooo simple' - (dmarker2)
             Sort of - (orion)
         What is IT, and how does this make them obsolete? - (ben_tilly) - (12)
             Re: Am sure we agree, issue is the question - (dmarker2) - (10)
                 XML can't kill IT - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                     Re: I am sure that is agreed (?) - (dmarker2) - (7)
                         To quote one writer on the subject . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
                             XML is a container for content - (orion) - (5)
                                 Re: XML is ... Some of the definitions - (dmarker2) - (4)
                                     Gracias. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         Re: XML is ..., WebSvcs are ... (part 2) ... - (dmarker2)
                                     Not so analogous to containerization, then. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         Re: Actually from several aspects - (dmarker2)
                     Re: A couple of points you raise ... - (dmarker2)
             Well, it won't affect my job - (tonytib)
         Web Services Certainly NOT! Cheaper Labor And Attitudes! - (gdaustin) - (3)
             I think there are two problems here - (drewk) - (1)
                 Perhaps I should have qualified.... - (gdaustin)
             Health care - (ChrisR)

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