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Post #414,259
by Another Scott
10/5/16 2:21:26 PM
10/5/16 2:21:26 PM
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New Mossberg thinks it's a big deal.
Post #414,304
by pwhysall
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10/6/16 3:06:59 AM
10/6/16 3:06:59 AM
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New He's an outlier on this one
The tech press has been pretty "meh" across the board.

Reading more: it seems that Google are constraining certain 7.1 features to the Pixel line, apparently just cuz.

If you bought a 6P, you must be feeling a bit boned right now.

Astute comment:

What an amazing business strategy!

1) Introduce new, overpriced, (based on comments by users on this site) unpopular new product.

2) Intentionally hobble previous products to entice people into upgrading.

3) Forget that human beings have memories.


Or, in a nutshell,

Can't make a product that even competes with your previous offerings? Somehow reduce the desirability of your previous product to make it seem less competitive. Google (at least tacitly) presented the Nexus line as being one where you could be guaranteed the latest and greatest. Now they have a new product that is clearly unpopular (at least at first blush based on the comments on tech sites like Ars) but they are going to change their update policies to try to make the Pixel seem less bad by comparison.

For me, at least, this taints their whole business. Why would I buy even the new Pixel? I cannot trust Google to not arbitrarily change their mind in a year and decide that their "Brand New Innovative Business Strategy (tm)" with their new hardware line (called "button" or "transistor" or whatever) is the future. Fuck whatever that Pixel thing was that they were just "testing out" in the market.


* This is not the same as what happens at Apple, where whilst an iPhone 5C won't have all the features of iOS 10 that my 6S+ does, it's for hardware and performance reasons
     Pixel XL. Ouch. - (Another Scott) - (61) - Oct. 4, 2016, 02:05:50 PM EDT
         I want my e911 chip free flip phone back. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2016, 02:23:49 PM EDT
             EVLeaks on Twitter mumbled something about flip phones coming back next year. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 4, 2016, 02:42:37 PM EDT
         Nice colors - (drook) - (2) - Oct. 4, 2016, 02:49:42 PM EDT
             Heh - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2016, 03:03:03 AM EDT
                 Looks like these, too - (drook) - Oct. 5, 2016, 11:34:18 AM EDT
         So, it's not a loss leader. :) - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 4, 2016, 04:48:11 PM EDT
         Re: Pixel XL. Ouch. - (pwhysall) - (12) - Oct. 5, 2016, 03:01:12 AM EDT
             They're offering a new ecosystem with very fast hardware. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Oct. 5, 2016, 06:52:24 AM EDT
                 Eh? No they're not - (pwhysall) - (10) - Oct. 5, 2016, 11:47:31 AM EDT
                     Disagree. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Oct. 5, 2016, 11:58:01 AM EDT
                         How to get assistant everywhere in 2 steps - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 5, 2016, 12:17:19 PM EDT
                             Re: giving up in a couple of years - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2016, 12:21:41 PM EDT
                                 iPhone? 4 years for many - (pwhysall) - Oct. 5, 2016, 12:36:59 PM EDT
                     Google Fi FTW - (drook) - (3) - Oct. 5, 2016, 12:11:09 PM EDT
                         It does sound appealing. I use very little data most months. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 5, 2016, 01:26:47 PM EDT
                             Yeah, you pay for all your data - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2016, 02:42:14 PM EDT
                                 The unthrottled foreign data sounds great... - (Another Scott) - Oct. 18, 2016, 11:23:25 PM EDT
                     Mossberg thinks it's a big deal. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 5, 2016, 02:21:26 PM EDT
                         He's an outlier on this one - (pwhysall) - Oct. 6, 2016, 03:06:59 AM EDT
         If you want a Pixel, avoid Verizon - (pwhysall) - (19) - Oct. 7, 2016, 03:19:39 AM EDT
             Verizon's always been evil. - (Another Scott) - (18) - Oct. 7, 2016, 08:36:33 AM EDT
                 Worse than the ringtone - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2016, 10:21:22 AM EDT
                     Oooh. I'd forgotten about that. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 7, 2016, 11:56:01 AM EDT
                 I couldn't care less about the bootloader - (pwhysall) - (15) - Oct. 7, 2016, 10:38:32 AM EDT
                     Yeahbut... - (Another Scott) - (14) - Oct. 7, 2016, 11:55:41 AM EDT
                         Yeahbut what? - (pwhysall) - (13) - Oct. 7, 2016, 02:29:17 PM EDT
                             "Don't be evil" - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Oct. 7, 2016, 02:34:07 PM EDT
                                 You just did "ooh look a monkey" - (pwhysall) - (4) - Oct. 7, 2016, 06:05:54 PM EDT
                                     All I'm saying is one is no better or worse than the other. The reasons may vary, but both are evil. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Oct. 9, 2016, 11:02:25 AM EDT
                                         So what? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 9, 2016, 11:54:13 PM EDT
                                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Oct. 10, 2016, 08:13:39 AM EDT
                                                 And I just told you why not. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 10, 2016, 01:49:33 PM EDT
                             Eh? I don't like Verizon. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Oct. 7, 2016, 03:34:43 PM EDT
                                 Google doesn't need to sell phones, though. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 7, 2016, 06:05:20 PM EDT
                                     But... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 7, 2016, 06:15:23 PM EDT
                                         Sure - (pwhysall) - Oct. 7, 2016, 06:44:49 PM EDT
                                     +5, Interesting. - (static) - (2) - Oct. 7, 2016, 10:30:13 PM EDT
                                         Might be worth double-checking that - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2016, 02:25:31 AM EDT
                                             No, it's not locked to Telstra. - (static) - Oct. 8, 2016, 03:21:24 AM EDT
         Decided I just can't do it. New T-Mobile $330 LG V10 looks like a possible winner. - (Another Scott) - (21) - Nov. 11, 2016, 11:48:08 PM EST
             New ones at eBay for $280. - (Another Scott) - Nov. 12, 2016, 10:35:20 AM EST
             It arrived today. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Nov. 16, 2016, 08:21:33 PM EST
                 when I get a new, the local tmobile store is happy to put a sim in for me free -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 16, 2016, 08:50:45 PM EST
                     Good to know. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 17, 2016, 08:42:08 PM EST
                         they are as competent with their products as the applestore folks with theirs -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 17, 2016, 08:56:46 PM EST
                 Bah. The cutter, etc., won't arrive until Monday. Grr... -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 19, 2016, 07:29:50 PM EST
                     Patience, Grasshopper! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Nov. 19, 2016, 08:57:11 PM EST
             Initial thoughts. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Nov. 22, 2016, 11:22:28 AM EST
                 heh, just got a new t-mobile android phone - (boxley) - (11) - Nov. 22, 2016, 02:59:04 PM EST
                     :-) Rub it in. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (10) - Nov. 22, 2016, 03:21:46 PM EST
                         Any privacy concerns with Assistant on your part? - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Nov. 22, 2016, 04:48:57 PM EST
                             Not yet. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Nov. 22, 2016, 05:15:34 PM EST
                                 Voice recognition is vastly better in my new phone - (drook) - (4) - Nov. 22, 2016, 05:36:43 PM EST
                                     Agreed (vastly better) for my G6 - (crazy) - (3) - Nov. 22, 2016, 06:03:02 PM EST
                                         Did some looking - (drook) - (2) - Nov. 22, 2016, 07:36:55 PM EST
                                             Thanks - (crazy) - (1) - Nov. 22, 2016, 07:47:21 PM EST
                                                 Yeah, online is actually faster -NT - (drook) - Nov. 22, 2016, 08:41:41 PM EST
                                 Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 25, 2016, 03:23:11 AM EST
                                     Re: Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2016, 02:49:37 PM EST
                                         Re: Privacy is the least of your worries on Android - (pwhysall) - Dec. 3, 2016, 02:36:30 AM EST
             Down to $300 at B&H now. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 27, 2016, 02:54:55 PM EST

You might, rabbit. You might.
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