it is *still legal* for healthcare providers to refuse to care

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Post #413,810 by boxley 9/22/16 12:44:38 PM 9/22/16 12:44:38 PM Reply	it is still legal for healthcare providers to refuse to care it is still legal for healthcare providers to refuse to care for patients with the type of insurance. So one should be forced to work for substandard wages per government fiat? always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #413,813 by mmoffitt 9/22/16 12:55:08 PM 9/22/16 12:55:08 PM Reply	Providing healthcare? Yes. And who said it was "substandard rates"? The bastards that put artificial hips in bedridden 90 year olds for $446,000 or more a year (that's the fricking median income)? You gonna listen to those assholes when it comes to "reasonable fees"?

The PPACA strikes my daughter. - (mmoffitt) - (67) - Sept. 21, 2016, 09:20:00 AM EDT

Look through a longer lens. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2016, 09:44:23 AM EDT

How do you understand US politics so well? - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:09:56 AM EDT

You know how you don't know who David Davis is, or what he does? - (pwhysall) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:20:07 AM EDT

I did not have medical insurance until I was 45 lost it when I was 55, shrug -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:08:08 AM EDT

gotcher armband & jackboots right here - (rcareaga) - (44) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:37:48 AM EDT

Re: second, ... - (mmoffitt) - (43) - Sept. 21, 2016, 01:54:27 PM EDT

Point of order... - (Another Scott) - (42) - Sept. 21, 2016, 07:48:14 PM EDT

You're missing the point. - (mmoffitt) - (41) - Sept. 22, 2016, 08:39:21 AM EDT

it is *still legal* for healthcare providers to refuse to care - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:44:38 PM EDT

Providing healthcare? Yes. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:55:08 PM EDT

You're whining. - (Another Scott) - (31) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:04:26 PM EDT

Serious question. - (mmoffitt) - (30) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:21:04 PM EDT

Serious answer - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM EDT

By "Pragmatists" you mean capitulators, right? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 02:13:07 PM EDT

Canada's system started in a few provinces then went national. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2016, 03:18:48 PM EDT

You didn't say "Single Payer". You said "Medicare for All" - (Another Scott) - (26) - Sept. 23, 2016, 03:15:14 PM EDT

Re: What Medicare system are you advocating ... Yes. That one. - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:22:02 AM EDT

Our government isn't going to change unless people vote sensibly. Which means voting D. -NT - (Another Scott) - (24) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:30:59 AM EDT

The last D put private insurers in our system by law. How'd that help? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (23) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:39:22 AM EDT

"Put" isn't the word you're looking for there. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:43:54 AM EDT

Really? Private Insurers were in the system by federal law before? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:06:35 AM EDT

Define "the system" that you're talking about for me. "Medicare Advantage" ring a bell? -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:42:44 AM EDT

Part C is redundant coverage that could have been placed in part B. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:54:07 AM EDT

Shoulda woulda coulda. The law and the system has to deal with reality. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 26, 2016, 12:05:48 PM EDT

Action first, payment second - (drook) - (17) - Sept. 26, 2016, 10:09:51 AM EDT

Not at all. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:08:03 AM EDT

What does "as a right" mean? - (drook) - (15) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:34:34 AM EDT

In America, you get the healthcare you can pay for and nothing else. That's wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:56:19 AM EDT

In Canada... - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 26, 2016, 12:10:32 PM EDT

Well, there was one once. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:29:39 PM EDT

Re: Well, there was one once. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 03:25:07 PM EDT

So, Mike was privileged even as a youth! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 26, 2016, 03:38:09 PM EDT

So, you know my own experiences better than I? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:01:53 PM EDT

Point is, you were a sample of one. That is all. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:06:16 PM EDT

Okay, Twas not the thrust anyway. :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:09:21 PM EDT

Thanks for confirming - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 26, 2016, 01:55:52 PM EDT

You've got a strange definition of equality embedded in that statement. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:30:28 PM EDT

More words, please? -NT - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:34:08 PM EDT

Re: More words, please? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:40:25 PM EDT

You don't seem to understand *your own* words - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:52:17 PM EDT

Simpler summary of my view: An unequal system is not a defensible system. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:03:17 PM EDT

Do you prefer no system? - (drook) - Sept. 26, 2016, 05:00:41 PM EDT

Two things - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:39:36 PM EDT

Re: (2) - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2016, 08:28:57 AM EDT

Read much? - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 23, 2016, 09:58:49 AM EDT

Might depend on what "household" means here. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:26:58 AM EDT

They're covered - (drook) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:46:08 AM EDT

That's because ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 12:59:16 PM EDT

Didn't you say ... - (drook) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:50:06 PM EDT

So she would have been covered before the ACA? -NT - (malraux) - (13) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:17:25 AM EDT

24 by law, but some plans it would have been 26. Both with no restrictions on pre-existing. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Sept. 21, 2016, 01:34:38 PM EDT

OK, so you paid through the end of the month - (rcareaga) - (7) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:07:42 PM EDT

I'd expect that attitude from a Hillary supporter. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:12:19 PM EDT

FIFY - (rcareaga) - (5) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:37:27 PM EDT

But you *DID* get something. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 21, 2016, 04:28:21 PM EDT

What part of "tangible terms" was unclear? -NT - (rcareaga) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2016, 07:27:26 PM EDT

What part of "no tangible thing != nothing" is unclear? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2016, 08:41:35 AM EDT

you are betting hundreds of dollars every month that you will get a dread disease. You lose monthly -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:51:27 PM EDT

I'm not so worried about myself. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2016, 01:12:56 PM EDT

So.... - (malraux) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:16:12 PM EDT

This bad, it had to be intentional. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:18:55 PM EDT

Never ascribe to malice, etc. - (malraux) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:37:23 PM EDT

Come on, nobody's that thick. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 21, 2016, 04:30:37 PM EDT

Could be worse - (dmcarls) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:44:07 PM EDT

Wow. Bibi got his, didn't he? Well done, Obama. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:53:18 PM EDT

Yeah, Obama's horrible all right. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:31:19 PM EDT

Touching. Nice to see he knows how to use a six year old. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 23, 2016, 08:25:01 AM EDT

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