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Post #413,785
by dmcarls
9/21/16 1:05:17 PM
9/23/16 10:44:07 PM
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>>> "I think Obama will go down in history as the most ineffectual President in our history."

He's not doing too badly:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

He will also be remembered for ending the embargo on Cuba among other things.

Edited to add:

Obama also signed an extraordinary agreement with Netanyahu.

http://www.newsweek.com/tel-aviv-diary-obama-exacts-cold-revenge-netanyahu-499392?rx=us
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Could be worse
>>> "I think Obama will go down in history as the most ineffectual President in our history."

He's not doing too badly:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

He will also be remembered for ending the embargo on Cuba among other things.
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Post #413,877
by Another Scott
9/23/16 10:53:18 PM
9/23/16 10:53:18 PM
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New Wow. Bibi got his, didn't he? Well done, Obama.
     The PPACA strikes my daughter. - (mmoffitt) - (67) - Sept. 21, 2016, 09:20:00 AM EDT
         Look through a longer lens. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2016, 09:44:23 AM EDT
             How do you understand US politics so well? - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:09:56 AM EDT
                 You know how you don't know who David Davis is, or what he does? - (pwhysall) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:20:07 AM EDT
         I did not have medical insurance until I was 45 lost it when I was 55, shrug -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:08:08 AM EDT
         gotcher armband & jackboots right here - (rcareaga) - (44) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:37:48 AM EDT
             Re: second, ... - (mmoffitt) - (43) - Sept. 21, 2016, 01:54:27 PM EDT
                 Point of order... - (Another Scott) - (42) - Sept. 21, 2016, 07:48:14 PM EDT
                     You're missing the point. - (mmoffitt) - (41) - Sept. 22, 2016, 08:39:21 AM EDT
                         it is *still legal* for healthcare providers to refuse to care - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:44:38 PM EDT
                             Providing healthcare? Yes. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:55:08 PM EDT
                         You're whining. - (Another Scott) - (31) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:04:26 PM EDT
                             Serious question. - (mmoffitt) - (30) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:21:04 PM EDT
                                 Serious answer - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM EDT
                                     By "Pragmatists" you mean capitulators, right? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 02:13:07 PM EDT
                                         Canada's system started in a few provinces then went national. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2016, 03:18:48 PM EDT
                                 You didn't say "Single Payer". You said "Medicare for All" - (Another Scott) - (26) - Sept. 23, 2016, 03:15:14 PM EDT
                                     Re: What Medicare system are you advocating ... Yes. That one. - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:22:02 AM EDT
                                         Our government isn't going to change unless people vote sensibly. Which means voting D. -NT - (Another Scott) - (24) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:30:59 AM EDT
                                             The last D put private insurers in our system by law. How'd that help? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (23) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:39:22 AM EDT
                                                 "Put" isn't the word you're looking for there. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 08:43:54 AM EDT
                                                     Really? Private Insurers were in the system by federal law before? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:06:35 AM EDT
                                                         Define "the system" that you're talking about for me. "Medicare Advantage" ring a bell? -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:42:44 AM EDT
                                                             Part C is redundant coverage that could have been placed in part B. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:54:07 AM EDT
                                                                 Shoulda woulda coulda. The law and the system has to deal with reality. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 26, 2016, 12:05:48 PM EDT
                                                 Action first, payment second - (drook) - (17) - Sept. 26, 2016, 10:09:51 AM EDT
                                                     Not at all. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:08:03 AM EDT
                                                         What does "as a right" mean? - (drook) - (15) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:34:34 AM EDT
                                                             In America, you get the healthcare you can pay for and nothing else. That's wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - Sept. 26, 2016, 11:56:19 AM EDT
                                                                 In Canada... - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 26, 2016, 12:10:32 PM EDT
                                                                     Well, there was one once. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:29:39 PM EDT
                                                                         Re: Well, there was one once. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 03:25:07 PM EDT
                                                                             So, Mike was privileged even as a youth! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 26, 2016, 03:38:09 PM EDT
                                                                             So, you know my own experiences better than I? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:01:53 PM EDT
                                                                                 Point is, you were a sample of one. That is all. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:06:16 PM EDT
                                                                                     Okay, Twas not the thrust anyway. :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:09:21 PM EDT
                                                                 Thanks for confirming - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 26, 2016, 01:55:52 PM EDT
                                                                     You've got a strange definition of equality embedded in that statement. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:30:28 PM EDT
                                                                         More words, please? -NT - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:34:08 PM EDT
                                                                             Re: More words, please? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:40:25 PM EDT
                                                                                 You don't seem to understand *your own* words - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2016, 02:52:17 PM EDT
                                                                                     Simpler summary of my view: An unequal system is not a defensible system. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2016, 04:03:17 PM EDT
                                                                                         Do you prefer no system? - (drook) - Sept. 26, 2016, 05:00:41 PM EDT
                         Two things - (drook) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:39:36 PM EDT
                             Re: (2) - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2016, 08:28:57 AM EDT
                                 Read much? - (drook) - (4) - Sept. 23, 2016, 09:58:49 AM EDT
                                     Might depend on what "household" means here. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:26:58 AM EDT
                                         They're covered - (drook) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:46:08 AM EDT
                                         That's because ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 12:59:16 PM EDT
                                             Didn't you say ... - (drook) - Sept. 23, 2016, 01:50:06 PM EDT
         So she would have been covered before the ACA? -NT - (malraux) - (13) - Sept. 21, 2016, 10:17:25 AM EDT
             24 by law, but some plans it would have been 26. Both with no restrictions on pre-existing. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Sept. 21, 2016, 01:34:38 PM EDT
                 OK, so you paid through the end of the month - (rcareaga) - (7) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:07:42 PM EDT
                     I'd expect that attitude from a Hillary supporter. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:12:19 PM EDT
                         FIFY - (rcareaga) - (5) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:37:27 PM EDT
                             But you *DID* get something. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 21, 2016, 04:28:21 PM EDT
                                 What part of "tangible terms" was unclear? -NT - (rcareaga) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2016, 07:27:26 PM EDT
                                     What part of "no tangible thing != nothing" is unclear? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2016, 08:41:35 AM EDT
                                         you are betting hundreds of dollars every month that you will get a dread disease. You lose monthly -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 12:51:27 PM EDT
                                             I'm not so worried about myself. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2016, 01:12:56 PM EDT
                 So.... - (malraux) - (3) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:16:12 PM EDT
                     This bad, it had to be intentional. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:18:55 PM EDT
                         Never ascribe to malice, etc. - (malraux) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2016, 02:37:23 PM EDT
                             Come on, nobody's that thick. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 21, 2016, 04:30:37 PM EDT
         Could be worse - (dmcarls) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:44:07 PM EDT
             Wow. Bibi got his, didn't he? Well done, Obama. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2016, 10:53:18 PM EDT
         Yeah, Obama's horrible all right. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2016, 06:31:19 PM EDT
             Touching. Nice to see he knows how to use a six year old. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 23, 2016, 08:25:01 AM EDT

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