I wonder...

Post #41,373 by pwhysall 6/6/02 3:28:31 AM Reply	I wonder... ...has the reviewer actually played these games? Errors: 1. WipEout 2097 doesn't have music by Aphex Twin. 2. Half-Life is based on a heavily modded Q1 engine, not Q2. 3. Unreal's AI wasn't particularly good - it was just that the aliens moved VERY fast and rarely missed. The Q1 reaperbot is better, and that was written by a bloke in his bedroom. The bot AI isn't bad, though. 4. Nit: Elite on the C64 was a pale shadow of the BBC version. The Archimedes version was even better. At any rate, Elite came out first on the BBC. And there are no "weapons turrets" in any version of Elite before Frontier, which doesn't have wireframe graphics. Omissions: 1. Quake 3 - spectacular engine, breathtaking level design, astounding bot AI. 2. Worms. 3. Any 3D fighting games whatsoever. Where the hell is Tekken 2? 4. Revs. Without Revs, there would be no Gran Turismo. 5. The Sentinel, for its utterly original gameplay. 6. go on, fill 'em in, you know you want to :) Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #41,376 by Meerkat 6/6/02 3:44:26 AM Reply	Perhaps the list was fairly personal Though I'll have to read the article again to see if that's right (when/if I have the time/can be bothered! :) Frinstance I wouldn't include any 3d fighting games in my top 50-100-1000-whatever because they're just not my cup of tea. I played Yie-Ar Kung Fu on the '64 once or twice, but that was about it. The whole genre just leaves me cold. But hey, I'm all for going to an arcade and trying Dance Dance Revolution :) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #41,377 by pwhysall 6/6/02 3:55:00 AM Reply	Tekken 2 changed the rules. Up to and including Tekken, fighting games were primarily about being /fast/. Speed was everything - few games had reasonable low moves and all Virtua Fighter's combos seemed to involve left-right-left-right [pound button 10x]. Tekken 2 changed all that. Now you had to be /good/. The combos are truly difficult to pull off, and not because the button combinations are hard - it's because timing is everything. But when you get it right... oh my. If you haven't seen or done Baek Doo San's Wing Blade/Hunting Hawk combo you haven't seen true beauty in a fighting game. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, it's supposed to be. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #41,386 by static 6/6/02 8:18:20 AM Reply	Being good at duelling games. Namco tried a version of that with Soul Blade. I don't know about Tekken, but Soul Blade on the PlayStation had a "story" mode which was a really clever way of putting a storyline around a sequence of fights. It also earnt you extra weapons that you could use in the main game. I wish they'd made more of that; they could have turned the story mode into an animated movie or even a TV series. I would've watched that! Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #44,266 by wharris2 7/2/02 2:38:05 PM Reply	Re: Tekken 2 changed the rules. If you haven't seen or done Baek Doo San's Wing Blade/Hunting Hawk combo you haven't seen true beauty in a fighting game. Change that to: "No matter if you've seen or done Baek Doo San's Wing Blade or anything else, you still haven't seen anything worth playing." (It should be obvious that fighting games are just not my cup of tea, coffee, beer, whiskey, or any other drink.)

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