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New One for MM and Box
This is where we need to be in the next 100 days and ongoing. To win a landslide in this election, to defeat Trump and the Republicans is a giant task. We are setting the bar high. We can do it if we stick together.

Some who are angry at the corporate forces in the Democratic Party want to vote for Jill Stein or just stay at home. But such an approach is self-defeating. It is not the way to win living wage jobs or stop police brutality or save the planet, because it gives an opening to the extremist right-wing. Some say that if they live in a blue or red state that is not a swing state, it is a safe state to vote for Jill Stein or just stay at home. But that is an argument that ignores the possibility of creating a landslide vote that can change the political climate in our country and give a huge boost to organizing for economic, racial and environmental justice. It also ignores the importance of a landslide vote to clearly reject Trump’s “dog whistle” politics of hate and racism. We should discuss this out in the Party and with our friends and allies, and reject the “safe state” argument.

The most persuasive argument to convince many working-class and struggling people to register and to vote is a simple comparison of the positions of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. At stake is the existence of a Department of Education, Environmental protection, voting rights, union rights, immigrant rights, health and safety, abortion rights, threat of nuclear war and the Supreme Court to name a few. The Voting Rights decisions that just took place in the lower courts are just one indication of how important the Supreme Court is.
- CPUSA (yes, that CP).

(via similar pointer from Mike J.)

Cheers,
Scott.
New useful idiots still exist and that post is pointed right at them
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New Yes, they still exist, but . . .
. . the supply of useless idiots is far and away larger.
New ah, the Trumpenlumpen
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New Idiots think it can be salvaged. It can't.
Electing Hillary will mean continued neo-fascist corporate hegemony and will only be delaying the inevitable, but only slightly.
New What if you're wrong?
New Status quo. That's bad enough. I don't like everyone being owned by Corporations+Banks.
New So, you prefer they all be property of "The State" . . .
. . and you're willing to risk a bloody revolution to get there.
New Guilty as charged. ;0)
Edit: Forgot the wink.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt Aug. 22, 2016, 12:18:58 PM EDT
New Tell that to the American people who will die as the result of new GOP policies.
Business Insider has a graph I've pointed to before:



Notice anything about the Black Male and Female lines and what happened during the Reagan/Bush vs Carter and Clinton administrations?

Your privilege is showing, again.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Look at the bottom line from 1992 to 2000 and ask again.
New Yes, going up during Clinton admin, what's your point?
--

Drew
New Compare slopes 88-92, 92-2000, 2000-2008. It doesn't make his case.
New There's a lag. Film at 11.
The trend was up under Democratic administrations and flat under Reagan/Bush.

Reagan/Bush policies had a significant, measurable negative impact on the life expectancy of AAs.

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Why there might not be a lag
According to the source data, both Aids and homicide had significant impact on black male life expectancy. Both of those could change abruptly with policy shifts.
--

Drew
New Good points, but ...
It takes time to get people confirmed, for new policies to get drawn up, advertised, take effect, and for the rest of the government to act on them.

Other than moratoriums and the like, it's hard for me to see policy changing in less than 3-6 months under normal circumstances on changing administrations from one party to another.

But you're right that the general point stands - who controls the White House has life-and-death implications for the AA community (and others). The Congress and the Courts matter too, of course.

It's not, "well they're all corrupt anyway, so it doesn't matter". It does matter. A lot.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Absolutely, lots of factors
--

Drew
New Well let's see ...
Percent increase in life expectancy per year.


           Black Male   White Male
Nixon           0.166   0.296
Ford            1.095   0.681
Carter          0.358   0.286
Reagan          0.118   0.265
GHW Bush        0.233   0.346
Clinton         0.615   0.256
W Bush          0.532   0.284

Aside from the fact that Ford presided over an exceptionally good period for both races, the thing that really sticks out is that white males generally make about the same gains year over year, but the gains of black males are highly correlated with what party holds the white house.

Who holds the House and Senate, and how much life expectancy lags any policy changes, are obviously relevant. But as a first cut, you'd have to be willfully blind not to see it.

So what are you seeing from 88 - 92?
--

Drew
New I misread the chart. Mea Culpa. Apologies, Scott.
New Progress! :-) Don't sweat it.
     One for MM and Box - (Another Scott) - (19)
         useful idiots still exist and that post is pointed right at them -NT - (boxley) - (2)
             Yes, they still exist, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 ah, the Trumpenlumpen -NT - (boxley)
         Idiots think it can be salvaged. It can't. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
             What if you're wrong? -NT - (Another Scott) - (14)
                 Status quo. That's bad enough. I don't like everyone being owned by Corporations+Banks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                     So, you prefer they all be property of "The State" . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                         Guilty as charged. ;0) - (mmoffitt)
                     Tell that to the American people who will die as the result of new GOP policies. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                         Look at the bottom line from 1992 to 2000 and ask again. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                             Yes, going up during Clinton admin, what's your point? -NT - (drook) - (8)
                                 Compare slopes 88-92, 92-2000, 2000-2008. It doesn't make his case. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                     There's a lag. Film at 11. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         Why there might not be a lag - (drook) - (2)
                                             Good points, but ... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Absolutely, lots of factors -NT - (drook)
                                     Well let's see ... - (drook) - (2)
                                         I misread the chart. Mea Culpa. Apologies, Scott. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                             Progress! :-) Don't sweat it. -NT - (Another Scott)

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