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New I just can't win
My computer crapped out on me again. My windows one, this time.

It won't start.

I've replaced the power supply, upping the power by 50 watts each time.

Nothing.

I've replaced the RAM with ram from a computer I know works.

Nothing.

I've even dipped into my emergency reserves and replaced the motherboard (there's a good chance I fried the north bus on my old MB, due to a stopped fan.

Nothing.

The fucking computer just sits there and hums occasionally.

The only computer still working is my OS/2 machine...

... and I can't get Virtual PC to load on it (sure, it works just great on my laptop, but it's too slow on that machine, so it's useless).

... and in order to get it to load, I'm probably going to have to reinstall Ecomstation for some reason I can't begin to fathom...

... and I've LOST THE FIRST TWO ECOMSTATION CDS! Dammit all to hell.

The moral of this story is that computers hate me. They're plotting against me. I can hear them whispering now.

"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New Re: I just can't win
... and I've LOST THE FIRST TWO ECOMSTATION CDS! Dammit all to hell

If you can't find the CDs in short order, let me know. I can always burn a couple of copies. You're on your own AFA the install key is concerned.
New I appreciate the offer
I have the install key squirreled away safely.

I would much rather find them, though, since they're probably sitting with my antivirus software and a few other CD's I've been looking for. :P

I swear, it's bad enough that software is unreliable. When HARDWARE turns on you, what's left? Oh, yes, that's right, breaking things.
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New WTF? Tell me it isn't so.
they're probably sitting with my antivirus software and a few other CD's I've been looking for

Antivirus software?! Please tell me it's not for an OS/2 / eCS machine. I haven't used any AV software on OS/2, EVER.
New nonono
It's antivirus software for the windows machine. Good lord, I haven't had a virus on my OS/2 machine since, oh, 1996 or so... and that was a DOS virus. :)
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New It's not
the computer that hates you. Obviously the Illuminati are tapping into it for thier own massively parallel computer project.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
New No no, not the I - it's that other gang I mentioned recently
New Shh!

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
New Heh...
Relax; I can't even remember what they're called...

...Even though I made it up myself! :-)
New Hoist by own petard, I'd guess
Someone who bought the Developers Kit for the EPE (Evullest Program Ever), has found the FAQ for: How to make the BIOS Eat The Machine, in the ETM\ufffd subdirectory..

(You know.. the one which ups the cycles for the poor harassed CPU into Overdrive, then whomps the buss with 2X what it's little transistors can manage? then *really* burns a new 'BIOS': hFFFFFF)

:(

Sorry..


Ashton
New No, they do not hate you.
They do this completely without hate - in fact, without any human emotion - it is simply their nature. For them to understand your point of view, you must respond in kind. After Zen meditation, calmly, and completely without emotion, discuss the problem with your computer.

The arguement I recommend is a Mauser machine pistol - expensive and illegal, but something any computer can understand.

Many years ago, my S100 bus computer was misbehaving. I sawed it in half with a hacksaw (yes, there was actually a reason for this). Unfortunately, it did not work any better after the procedure, but it did engender a certain respect among cyber-kind.

As my clients so often say, "Well, it didn't work until you walked through the door, and I know it isn't going to work five minutes after you leave, but yes, it is working perfectly right now".
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New LOL
Ah... that would be wonderful. Just thinking of shooting my computer is giving me a great deal of joy right now...
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New So, I was helping a friend move last weekend...
...this has been my primary form of entertainment this year, it seems -- myself once, and two friends. I guess that's my come-uppance for having a pickup truck....

So, anyhow, time comes to deal with the bed. Frame is a drop-together, no-fasteners thing. Just a wedge-shaped slot and groove joint, firmly welded by gravity and recreational activities.

My standard approach, beating on the damned thing with the flat of my hand, doesn't budge most of the joints, and begins to suggest to me that my hand might not care for the abuse. I ask "do you have a hammer" to Ed, who obligingly goes hunting. To Elizabeth: "there's an awful lot of good stories that start with 'do you have a hammer'".

Ed returns empty handed. I take a spin through the garage. On the wall, hanging from a hook, is a hammer.

I return to the living room. "I found a hammer". Ed looks. "I'm not feeling too sure about this". What I'm holding is a four pound sledge.

...weilded appropriately, it produced results. Nothing like a little appropriate persuading on your side. It also gave me another opportunity to tell my "how I destroyed a car with a sledgehammer during lunch on the quad at college one day" story.
--
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?

   Keep software free.     Oppose the CBDTPA.     Kill S.2048 dead.
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New No! Really? A car? *grin*

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
New Well, there was a measure of cheating involved
The car in question was already totaled, and had been stripped (glass, engines, interior, etc.). It was pretty much just the body of a mid-1980s Toyota Corolla. A frat was selling off pops at it with the hammer as a fundraiser.

This was my second quarter back in college after my brother died. I'd held back a bit on activities my first quarter to get up to speed with academics, started swimming again over winter break when I realized there was absolutely nothing else to do, and was going out of my skull. I'd been doing noontime swims as the first week of the quarter started. This was the day I discovered two things: Fridays, the pool was preempted by a gym class (that wasn't actually using it), and a good workout is a really good way to stay sane. I was steamed as I left the gym after having suited up and found a locked door....

So I see the car on the quad, aforementioned frat, and say to myself, "Self, that is such a typically bone-headed frat thing to do, we will have no part in this". I watch, bored, for a few minutes as a couple of guys who know nothing about how to handle a sledgehammer or the structural weak points of a car, do this lift-and-drop thing in the middle of some body pannels. It made noise, in a sort of very out-of-tune, deadened, steel drum sort of a way.

I say to myself, "Self, we can do a much better job of this than they can". I'd been known to work off frustrations back home splitting wood, and would get really annoyed when the frustrations outlasted the wood supply. The offer of a couple of cords to work over is still strong inducement to get me home for the holidays.

I pay my three dallah and grab the hammer. It's an eight pounder (that's a tad on the heavy side, standard splitting sledge is about four pounds).

The way you work a hammer is like this. You hold it in front of you, about chest high, right hand at the base of the handle, left hand choked up toward the head. You drop your left had toward your righ, and let the momentum carry the hammer behind your back. As it clears the zenith, you encourage it downwards, strongly. It picks up a goodly momentum. Once you're into the work, you catch the rebound just a bit but keep the rhythm going.

If the object of your interest is, say, a car, you focus your attention on such things as, say, the middle of support struts, hinges, joints, and similar components. In my first three minutes, I dropped the driver side of the roof to door level and removed the driver side door.

Feeling slightly better, I yielded the hammer. This being a high-fallutin' college, a few observers actually learned something, and started applying my technique to the car. But not as effectively as one might have hoped.

I asked, "So, what's it going to cost for me to go in again?" "Don't worry," the reply, "You're good for business".

Second time through, I dropped the passenger side of the roof, took off the passenger door, the trunk, and the hood.

For some odd reason, it was very difficult to take notes in my next hour's lecture. Something about being able to hold a pen that seems to be a requirement. But I was a lot less pissed off than I'd been leaving the pool. My classmate who was a member of the frat was also duly impressed.

They guy whose car it was was apparently sitting curled up in a corner of the quad watching the goings on, saying "I can't believe what they're doing to my car....".
--
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?

   Keep software free.     Oppose the CBDTPA.     Kill S.2048 dead.
[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/...a_alert.html]]
New *grin* Sounds like fun!

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
New Well I have a friend
who quite convincingly destroyed a bed using only a hammer. Not a sledge, just a normal bash-nails-in type of hammer. Two things though - it was on purpose, and old particle board doesn't put up a hell of a lot of resistance.

As a bonus, it was fun to watch :-)
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New You people are all sick!
Entertaining...but sick!

;-)
jb4
"I remember Harry S. Truman's sign on his desk. 'The buck stops here.' Strange how those words, while still true, mean something completely different today." -- Brandioch
New Aw, come on,,,
After all, it was the only way we could get it to fit in the back of the station wagon... we're not sick, we're creative :)
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New Hey, I didn't say it was ineffective...
...indeed, it was effective on several different levels (including psychological, if I'm not mistaken...).

It's just that you so seem to relish it....
jb4
Someday, I'll tell you the story of how I literally kicked an IBM 360 into submission...
New So I shouldn't mention I took pictures? :-)
But it wasn't (entirely) pointless wanton destruction. It was a bed that pretty much destructed itself already, and only needed minor assistance. The fact that the assistance was so enjoyed by the destroyer, and cheered on by us spectators, is quite superfluous :)

Is it a good time to put this topic to bed? ;-)
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
New Fun things to destroy...
I had the pleasure of doing the demolition work on my kitchen before we had it replaced. There's quite a bit of damage one can do with a reciprocating saw and crowbar...
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Re: Fun things to destroy...
There's quite a bit of damage one can do with a reciprocating saw and crowbar...


Yes! As a veteran of many home improvement projects that involved at least some demolition, I've nicknamed my DeWalt reciprocating saw "The Homewrecker" :)
-----
Steve
New Some ideas.
You mentioned you replaced the power supply - did you try the motherboard in a whole 'nother case (without buying one, of course - I wouldn't expect you to do that!)?

Have you tried the motherboard out of the box, sitting on a piece of plastic, wood or glass?

Wade.

"Ah. One of the difficult questions."

New Actually, I hadn't tried that, exactly
because there's just not enough free space in my office at the moment. Though now that I think of it, I wish I had...

the problem seems to be solved at the moment, though. My trials are listed in the hardware forum...
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
New The Mystery, Revealed
YOur guess was pretty close.

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"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
     I just can't win - (cwbrenn) - (25)
         Re: I just can't win - (n3jja) - (3)
             I appreciate the offer - (cwbrenn) - (2)
                 WTF? Tell me it isn't so. - (n3jja) - (1)
                     nonono - (cwbrenn)
         It's not - (imric) - (3)
             No no, not the I - it's that other gang I mentioned recently -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                 Shh! -NT - (imric) - (1)
                     Heh... -NT - (CRConrad)
         Hoist by own petard, I'd guess - (Ashton)
         No, they do not hate you. - (Andrew Grygus) - (12)
             LOL - (cwbrenn)
             So, I was helping a friend move last weekend... - (kmself) - (10)
                 No! Really? A car? *grin* -NT - (imric) - (2)
                     Well, there was a measure of cheating involved - (kmself) - (1)
                         *grin* Sounds like fun! -NT - (imric)
                 Well I have a friend - (Meerkat) - (6)
                     You people are all sick! - (jb4) - (3)
                         Aw, come on,,, - (Meerkat) - (2)
                             Hey, I didn't say it was ineffective... - (jb4) - (1)
                                 So I shouldn't mention I took pictures? :-) - (Meerkat)
                     Fun things to destroy... - (admin) - (1)
                         Re: Fun things to destroy... - (Steve Lowe)
         Some ideas. - (static) - (2)
             Actually, I hadn't tried that, exactly - (cwbrenn) - (1)
                 The Mystery, Revealed - (cwbrenn)

I said, "Forget the cods, Gill, this guy's gonna need a sturgeon." Well, the yellowtail was impressed with the way I landed her boyfriend. She came over to me, she said, "Hey, big boy. You're really a game fish. What's your name?" I said, "Marlin."
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