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New Et tu Brute?
Then fall C\ufffdsar.

You have a family. 'They' have a family. Think they 'feel' any differently than you?

*Which* 'They' then: the 99.867% who despise all the killing as much as anyone else? Or the 0.133% of (occasionally-collected together) individual criminals, who perform the acts in question?

Respect Us -- Respect! is what you want from 'them' ???
Tell me then about: our accomplishments, about the egalitarian democratic, happy peaceful society (and its worldwide activities on 'their' behalf) - which would prompt this feeling of.. Respect.
Please.

Must we *Always* pick the EZiest no-brainer instant response to a stimulus, thinking with our viscera? Again ?? Yeah I Know: It's Traditional. Still - C'mon Dan..






Cheers,

Ashton

Time for a reading break at the ivied lib? Check out the relationship between self-Righteousness and 'agitation to yet more violence' for violence' sake of Feelin Good! about Oneself, and the expected results approx 100.0% of the time (?) \ufffd.01%
Will light candle.
New The evil that men do lives after them...
the good is oft interred with their bones.

I think what you are getting at is moral equivalency. I do not mean respect in the sense of greeting us in polite manner. I mean respect the fact that however rude that we are, in this period of our history, we can easily subjugate them either militarily or economically. If they cannot police their own crazies, then we will do it for them and most probably in a manner that they will not care for. When I say fear, I mean, that if they don't at least respect us in the manner that I described above, then they will fear the near holocaust that will ensue... Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Most don't. That generation is almost gone.

Say what you will about the morality of the a bomb, but just the "threat" of us using it AGAIN kept many countries from agression towards us. The world has changed. Even Pakistan (the home of Bin Laden) has the Atomic bomb now. There is a new reality and talk about mass destruction is not just an academic exercise. For my children, I would rather our country be the subjugators and not the subjugatees...

Back to moral equivalencies... I love dogs. When I read about a dog that has attacked a human and is euthanized, I think "poor bastard"... But we can identify in animals, that when one "goes bad" he cannot be "fixed"... I think when one is willing to give up his desire for self preservation - no matter what the cause - he cannot be "fixed". He should be put down. For the greater good. Whether this analogy applies to a few "rotten individuals" or a few rotten countries. I think there was a song about how one insect can destroy so much grain...
Just a few thoughts,

Screamer

"As people assemble, civilization Is trying to find a new way to die,
But killing is really, merely scene changer,all men are bored, with other men's lives"

...
"We all know success, when we all find our own dreams
And our love is enough to knock down any walls
And the future's been seen, as men try to realize
The simple secret of the note in us all
in us all"
P. Townshend - Pure and Easy
     What we're facing. - (bepatient) - (79)
         Verily. - (Ashton)
         What is most striking to me... - (screamer) - (49)
             Frankly... - (bepatient) - (28)
                 Re: Frankly... - (Arkadiy) - (26)
                     Which boils down to... - (bepatient) - (25)
                         You're revealing your assumptions. - (Brandioch) - (24)
                             What assupmtions. - (bepatient) - (23)
                                 You're getting closer. - (Brandioch) - (22)
                                     So we should... - (bepatient) - (21)
                                         It's called a "clue". You may not recognize it. - (Brandioch) - (20)
                                             Yep...there's that losing spirit - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                 That's the spirit Bill.. - (Ashton)
                                                 So what you're saying is your recommendation is a total fail - (Brandioch) - (17)
                                                     Nope....you're confusing yours and mine. - (bepatient) - (16)
                                                         Sounds like your Alzheimer's is kicking in with a vengence. - (Brandioch) - (15)
                                                             Then please, oh wise one...enlighten us with your plan. - (bepatient) - (14)
                                                                 You need to brush up on our criminal justice system. - (Brandioch) - (13)
                                                                     Pretty weak. - (bepatient) - (11)
                                                                         Net result: demonstration that this is a genuine Conundrum - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                             Defense in depth. - (Brandioch)
                                                                         Yep, you've got Alzheimer's. - (Brandioch) - (8)
                                                                             It seems that your plan is still missing... - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                 Bill "Strawman" Pathetic. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                                                     If I may - some comments. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                                         Answers. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                                                                             Clarifcation of my inquiry. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                                 More. - (Brandioch)
                                                                                     I see your originality is still intact - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                         Reading.....with comprehension. - (Brandioch)
                                                                     lotsa criminals and no Justice :) -NT - (boxley)
                 You may be quite right re the outcome. - (Ashton)
             Again, I must disagree... - (Simon_Jester)
             Hatred, not at their level - (orion) - (18)
                 We are as bad as they are and... as good. - (screamer) - (17)
                     That type of thought process used to amaze me. - (Brandioch) - (13)
                         But Brandioch... - (Simon_Jester)
                         what to do - (boxley) - (2)
                             Close - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 Now put some names to those people and you'll see the prob. - (Brandioch)
                         Yes - (screamer) - (8)
                             Can you locate the USofA on a map? - (Brandioch) - (7)
                                 Doesn't work - (bepatient)
                                 Yeah... - (screamer) - (3)
                                     Ummm, did you miss the heading of this forum? - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                         Nope... - (screamer) - (1)
                                             Score it however you want to. - (Brandioch)
                                 No, I cannot locate the USofA on a map. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Minor disagreement. - (Brandioch)
                     Et tu Brute? - (Ashton) - (1)
                         The evil that men do lives after them... - (screamer)
                     During WW-II, the Japanese were considered to be... - (a6l6e6x)
         Isn't this humorous... - (Simon_Jester) - (27)
             no...not really - (bepatient) - (26)
                 chuckle - (Simon_Jester) - (25)
                     Of course there's the fact that he was an Idealist - - (Ashton) - (24)
                         Close... - (Simon_Jester) - (23)
                             Dear sir, if you are referring to moi - (screamer) - (22)
                                 Maybe more ironical than ha-ha? - (Ashton)
                                 I think it is hilarious. - (Brandioch) - (18)
                                     I guess you missed their message. - (bepatient) - (17)
                                         Nope...I didn't - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                                             Dunno. Who? - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                 Actually you.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                     Nope... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                         Sigh...somehow I knew you wouldn't see the humor... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                             Ok...I get it. - (bepatient)
                                         Ah, but there is a difference. - (Brandioch) - (10)
                                             C'mon now... - (bepatient) - (9)
                                                 Hint: was it Guatemala? Nicaragua? El Salvador? - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                     What... - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                         That's what I've previously established. - (Brandioch) - (6)
                                                             ROFL - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                 Whatever. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                                                     Why bother. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                         That's funny. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                             High Density - (bepatient)
                                                                         Oh Goodie! ______... a poll. - (Ashton)
                                 He's certainly a pawn... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Sorry for the noise - (screamer)

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