LibreOffice 5.1 is very good, also too.

Post #409,668 by Another Scott 4/29/16 5:51:08 PM 4/29/16 5:51:08 PM Reply	LibreOffice 5.1 is very good, also too. Download. It's much less painful for me to use than PP07, for example. But it's still not a perfect match for all weird MSOffice files... Cheers, Scott.
Post #409,675 by scoenye 4/29/16 6:55:44 PM 4/29/16 6:55:44 PM Reply	It is Despite any preferential disputes about the menu organization, there are areas where it is much better than MS Office for regular work, especially on text documents. Style management and application is much more consistent and a lot easier to use. None of the make 'em up as we go along styles like Word. If you need formulas, OO/LO are ahead by miles. And, it is actually quite good at recovering MSO originated files that Word/Excel started puking on for whatever reason. Base is no equivalent to Acccess, but then I've been doing my level best for the last 10 years to kill those databases off, so, no loss there >:-)
Post #409,679 by hnick 4/29/16 7:30:20 PM 4/29/16 7:30:20 PM Reply	I haven't used it in a while Do they have a reasonable substitute for visio? I'm really only interested in flow charting and UML. I seem to remember they had a draw option that did ok. I don't recall if it had UML options. I'm doing database stuff now so I could use toys for that as well. Visio can do what I need. My home visio is an old msdn version (same as work version) and I don't know if it will survive the change to windows {whatever's in vogue when 7 collapses). I don't want to pay for another windows version of the same thing I already have to be independent of my work machine. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #409,680 by Another Scott 4/29/16 8:45:29 PM 4/29/16 8:45:29 PM Reply	I have used Draw for various things, but not that. Does this help? You love LibreOffice and OpenOffice, but you still use Visio to make drawings. Why? Because none of the shapes you need are easily available. Until now. Custom OO Shapes is a repository of custom shapes you can use with LibreOffice and OpenOffice Draw. The following shapes are available: [...] UML Shapes Class, instance, package, component, assembly, collaboration, artifact, node, deployment, swim lanes (four variations), actor, accept event, action, activity final, decision, flow final, stop, initial node, parameter set, object node, condition, send signal, receive signal, frame, paths 24-Jan-2010 download (13.7 kb) HTH! Cheers, Scott.
Post #409,686 by hnick 4/30/16 5:54:34 AM 4/30/16 5:54:34 AM Reply	Looks like it might be useful. I'll check it out when I get a decent linux box going at home. At work I have to use their setup and no other. Thanks! "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #409,688 by Another Scott 4/30/16 8:43:31 AM 4/30/16 8:43:31 AM Reply	Sounds good. Remember - LibreOffice runs on Winders and MacOS too.
Post #409,738 by scoenye 5/2/16 7:10:12 PM 5/2/16 7:10:12 PM Reply	Never used the office suites for that I've always used Diagram. It had working attachment points way back when. It still meets my needs so I have not looked for alternatives.

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