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New What makes us human
Maybe the reason AI never feels "real" is that we keep trying to make it smarter. In this context, intelligence goes from zero to "as smart as the smartest human at the given activity".

But humans sometimes go below zero. We don't just fail, we make things worse.

This takes a while to walk you up to the point, but it's worth it for this line:
If you can get your AI anti-intelligent enough to suffer boredom, depression and precious-snowflake syndrome, then we’ll start getting somewhere.
--

Drew
New Along those lines, why The Singularity may never happen...
The Singularity May Never Be Near (4 page .pdf) by Toby Walsh at the UNSW.

We are currently seeing impressive advances in AI using deep learning(Edwards 2015). This has dramatically improved the state-of-the-art in speech recognition, computer vision, natural language processing and a number of other domains. These improvements have come largely from using larger data sets, and deeper neural networks:

“Before, neural networks were not breaking records for recognizing continuous speech; they were not big enough.” Yann LeCun, quoted in (Edwards 2015)

Of coures[sic], more data and bigger neural networks means we need more processing power. As a result, GPUs are now frequently used to provide this processing power. However, being better able to recognize speech or identify objects has not lead to an improvement in deep learning itself. The deep learning algorithms have not improved themselves. Any improvements to the deep learning algorithms have been hard won by applying our own intelligence to their design.


It's an interesting paper.

Cheers,
Scott.
New And because we're still too attached to our own measures of intelligence
Moravec’s paradox is this observation: “The main lesson of thirty-five years of AI research is that the hard problems are easy and the easy problems are hard.”

Basically, early AI people, being a bit proud of their status as Superior Human Specimens as Validated By SAT Scores and Chess-Skills, assumed that getting computers to beat them at those things would be the hard mission. They were wrong. Things even low-SAT-score chess morons can do, like recognizing their mother’s face, opening a door latch, or getting a knock-knock joke, turned out to be far harder.

I can't find the quote, but he also points out that what we used to think of as the "hard" problems turn out to be computationally easy, but require huge datasets for the decision tree; while the "unconscious" things like face recognition or natural language recognition are the ones that take raw compute power.

Like Ken Jennings said when they asked him how it felt to lose to Watson (paraphrasing): "I challenge Watson to a rematch. This time: dancing."

For all we know, we might still be a conceptual breakthrough or two away from solving the unconscious problems.
--

Drew
New Re: What makes us human
when a computer can be asked a medium difficulty question and its process includes "hey nine tits, my ball are itchy, whats for dinner" in the algorithm they can be declade equal in intelligence.
always look out for number one and don't step in number two
New Well, there's always this:
An android endeavors to become human as he gradually acquires emotions.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182789/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_38
New or Amazon's Echo...
[...]

"Always getting smarter and adding new features and skills--over 100 added since launch, including Domino's and Uber"

[...]

http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-SK705DI-Echo/dp/B00X4WHP5E/ref=zg_bs_electronics_4


"When you want to use Echo, simply say the wake word, "Alexa," and Echo lights up and streams audio to the cloud, where the Alexa Voice Service is leveraged to recognize and respond to your request instantly."


(Keep in mind, there is no cloud, just someone else's computer. Not yours)
New Well she's not as bright as HAL9000, but
apparently does not have the schizophrenia-option as did HAL.

Am waiting for HAL; for one thing, I need-Not the lists of pop-music, but could be amused-while-informed re. the bios of the music Immortals, or anecdotes re origins of various lieder, and like that.

(I do hope to pass ..on the Over-mechanized 'A House is.. (not a Home)' Even if you soon CAN: pick your rhythm--Take Five?--and flash all in-house lites+colours ... just for the halibut.)


Curmudgeonly,


Modrin 'civil'ization still seems largely about Boyz [and their Toyz]
New Have you seen Black Mirror?
--

Drew
New No.
But I can see that some folk Would-if-they-Could ... attempt to buy/sell? make-happen just such a Boolean-simplifid blueprint for a homo-sap .. ... ....

(I believe this is the as-yet-unTtled, "fallacy of imagining an algorithm for Every. Thing.")

Then again, maybe the authors of above were just having us all On ... Consciousness on a Corporate Chip™ ?!?


{{shudder}}
New Be careful ! (from 65 yrs ago)
"The Veldt" is a short story written by American author Ray Bradbury.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Veldt_%28short_story%29


"The Hadley family lives in an automated house called "The Happylife Home," filled with machines that do everything for them from cooking meals, to clothing them, to rocking them to sleep."

[...]

"The psychologist, David McClean, suggests they turn off the house, move to the country, and learn to be more self-sufficient."
New I remember The Veldt
:-/

(With kids like that, who needs Zyklon-B?)
New Thank you, Peter ..whelmed.
(Since my Mater's first-name was Veva I shall presume some metaphysical ganglion is at work here.)

Then too, since I've let hair grow below ears, anticipating a preternaturally-warm spring (and use of my Indian head-band) I shall have to wait a bit ...
before instructing my hairdresser to shorten/install little spikes in the layers.

But is it OK for me to sing the complex incantation heard here, to the catchy tunes and orchestration of, say Das Lied von Der Erde?


(..Cause you know how I Be re ..guitars at ƒƒƒƒ ... right Laddie?)

:-þ
     What makes us human - (drook) - (12)
         Along those lines, why The Singularity may never happen... - (Another Scott) - (1)
             And because we're still too attached to our own measures of intelligence - (drook)
         Re: What makes us human - (boxley)
         Well, there's always this: - (dmcarls) - (6)
             or Amazon's Echo... - (dmcarls) - (5)
                 Well she's not as bright as HAL9000, but - (Ashton) - (4)
                     Have you seen Black Mirror? - (drook) - (1)
                         No. - (Ashton)
                     Be careful ! (from 65 yrs ago) - (dmcarls) - (1)
                         I remember The Veldt - (Ashton)
         Instructions - (pwhysall) - (1)
             Thank you, Peter ..whelmed. - (Ashton)

Your entire eulogy was just your bartender telling a coroner, "Yeah, I think that's Britney."
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