Re: Oh, look! The real reason for War is buried in Number 5.

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A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.

The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.

Sectional interest and animosity will deepen the irritation, and all hope of remedy is rendered vain, by the fact that public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanction of more erroneous religious belief.

We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.

Adopted December 24, 1860

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #407,815 by Another Scott 1/29/16 2:46:45 PM 1/29/16 2:46:45 PM Reply	Re: Oh, look! The real reason for War is buried in Number 5. [...] A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety. On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States. The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy. Sectional interest and animosity will deepen the irritation, and all hope of remedy is rendered vain, by the fact that public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanction of more erroneous religious belief. We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do. Adopted December 24, 1860 HTH. Cheers, Scott.
Post #407,816 by boxley 1/29/16 2:56:02 PM 1/29/16 2:56:02 PM Reply	so undocumented aliens should have full voting rights? good to know always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #407,820 by malraux 1/29/16 3:44:54 PM 1/29/16 3:44:54 PM Reply	The Civil War: largest amnesty program evah! ;-) Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #407,823 by mmoffitt 1/29/16 4:40:59 PM 1/29/16 4:40:59 PM Reply	All wars are about money. You know this.
Post #407,824 by Another Scott 1/29/16 6:13:15 PM 1/29/16 6:13:15 PM Reply	It's pretty reasonable to think that the SC secession was about what they said it was about.
Post #407,840 by mmoffitt 1/30/16 11:32:48 AM 1/30/16 11:32:48 AM Reply	And owning slaves was how wealth was generated. Slavery was key to the generation of wealth in the South. A threat to it was a threat to the means of production in the South. If owning slaves did not generate wealth, there'd never have been any interest in the North.
Post #407,842 by Another Scott 1/30/16 1:26:40 PM 1/30/16 1:26:40 PM Reply	Yeahbut, their own words say it was about slavery. I don't agree that your last clause follows, btw. You noticed the comments about slavery being blessed by their religion, and how their "beliefs and safety" were being threatened, were buried in there, too, I trust. If secession were to be justified on economic grounds, they could have said so. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #407,852 by mmoffitt 2/1/16 8:33:09 AM 2/1/16 8:33:09 AM Reply	Religion is always used to justify oppression and "true believers deserving wealth."

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