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Post #406,676 by scoenye 12/2/15 7:08:24 PM Reply	Watch what you wish for... Most of the money goes to specialists, not the GPs. Specialists already make heavy use of NPs/PAs. And there, things tend to go off the rails, at least for my data point. Every time I've run into an NP/PA, the end result was ineffective at best. That was not because the operators were incompetent, not by a long shot. It's just that the situation was outside their scope. So in the end, we ended up paying twice plus dragged things out for weeks until the MD can find a free spot.
Post #406,681 by boxley 12/2/15 10:51:08 PM Reply	true, I have heard in holland you get a nurse to birth at home, no docs involved you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #406,691 by mmoffitt 12/3/15 8:03:34 AM Reply	You can do that here, too, with an OB NP.
Post #406,690 by mmoffitt 12/3/15 8:03:00 AM Reply	There is a material difference between them as well. Only 10% of NP charts require MD review. 100% of PA charts require MD review. That's typically why specialists prefer PA's over NP's. They get a cha-ching for every patient a PA sees, but only 1 in 10 that an NP sees.
Post #406,694 by boxley 12/3/15 9:09:11 AM Reply	did not know that, thank you you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer

united healthcare may pull out of obamacare policies - (boxley) - (15) - Dec. 1, 2015, 10:45:25 PM EST

Wrong! - (Andrew Grygus) - (14) - Dec. 1, 2015, 11:24:15 PM EST

medicare for all is nocare? better than what we have now - (boxley) - (13) - Dec. 1, 2015, 11:39:51 PM EST

But we don't have the votes in the Senate! -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2015, 07:38:08 AM EST

sometimes it takes a republican president to get social shit done, re nixon -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 2, 2015, 12:43:32 PM EST

Based on other countries that have made it work - (malraux) - (10) - Dec. 2, 2015, 10:22:11 AM EST

But don't forget to subtract ... - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Dec. 2, 2015, 11:38:39 AM EST

That does "subtract" it. - (malraux) - (8) - Dec. 2, 2015, 12:02:19 PM EST

Interesting - (mmoffitt) - (7) - Dec. 2, 2015, 04:18:27 PM EST

That is very interesting - (malraux) - Dec. 2, 2015, 04:23:02 PM EST

Also note savings could be made by using Nurse Practisioners and Physician Assistants more than now - (boxley) - (5) - Dec. 2, 2015, 04:54:25 PM EST

Watch what you wish for... - (scoenye) - (4) - Dec. 2, 2015, 07:08:24 PM EST

true, I have heard in holland you get a nurse to birth at home, no docs involved -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2015, 10:51:08 PM EST

You can do that here, too, with an OB NP. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 3, 2015, 08:03:34 AM EST

There is a material difference between them as well. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2015, 08:03:00 AM EST

did not know that, thank you -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 3, 2015, 09:09:11 AM EST

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