Longish read: David Stockman on imperial blowback

..But Shock and Awe blew the lid and the de-baathification campaign unleashed the furies.
Wish I'd said that! ... when seeking that sublime compression which Unix-speak demands of all command-line wanna-be acolytes.

{sigh} Methinks it's a fond remembrance of all those wistful reduxes ~~
"Of all sad words of tongue or pen
The saddest are these, it might have been."
The stuff of Red Pllenty, then. But it's still unicorn-land; Muricans never parse their reptile-brain enthusiasms as they are flowing out, over cigars and 100 yo Port.

And especially lacking amidst the Ronnie worshippers, The Kissinger and that litany of scrofulous neocons of the ilk of Wolfowitz, Kristol and clones (as they successfully targeted the marlowes of the disgruntled masses) was any sense at all of the bottomless-Hatred engendered in these young desert-Losers: 50ish% unemployed forever and living under the tyranny of a lethal religion, (should they even try to get laid! anywhere near their "country"/tribe.)

Anyway.. *MEGO at the full litany [20/20 hindsight] of the puerile utter absence of Murican foresight re most of the issues in this screed. I don't much care that the "econ guesses" are apt to be least accurate [simply because Econ-itself is a bogus pseudo-science and all.]

* noting that Karl Rove has a book now, comparing the McKinley election to the forthcoming.. (he's on C. Rose just now.) It's about the $$$, the tactics/strategies of a bloodless computer-game; just as it Will be played. Machiavelli R'us.. Ferenghi with smaller ears?

I gotta Love Stockman's concluding comments...

Needless to say, bombing wont stop them; it will just make more of them.

Ironically, what can stop them is the Assad government and the ground forces of its Hezbollah and the Iranian Republican Guard allies. Its time to let them settle an ancient quarrel that has never been any of America’s business anyway.

But Imperial Washington is so caught up in its myths, lies and hegemonic stupidity that it can not see the obvious.

And that is why a quarter century after the cold war ended peace still hasn’t been given a chance and the reason that horrific events like last week’s barbarism in Paris still keep happening.

If I stay far enough away from the 2016 daily-fog of Pre-Next-war I can catch up with a large cache of books ... as I tally-up how close/or not was any Stockman prescience of the Murican character then and still (does anyone see any improvement .. to speak of?)

Thanks for the romp. I think we'll be missing BHO earlier than I'd imagined.

Post #406,551 by rcareaga 11/25/15 5:41:43 PM Reply	Longish read: David Stockman on imperial blowback Yes, that David Stockman: ...the relative handful of suicidal jihadi who have perpetrated murderous episodes of terror like 9/11 and this weekend’s carnage in Paris did not exist in November 1989; and they would not be marauding the West today save for the unrelenting arrogance, stupidity, duplicity and mendacity of Imperial Washington. His scorn does not differentiate between the major parties, which, as mmoffitt has correctly observed, are more closely aligned than they ought to be in matters regarding hegemony, US global, maintenance of. More here. cordially,
Post #406,557 by boxley 11/25/15 10:00:57 PM Reply	interesting read but wrong in many areas although the economic reasons are in the main correct you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #406,576 by Ashton 11/27/15 4:31:40 AM Reply	Re: Longish read: David Stockman on imperial blowback ..But Shock and Awe blew the lid and the de-baathification campaign unleashed the furies. Wish I'd said that! ... when seeking that sublime compression which Unix-speak demands of all command-line wanna-be acolytes. {sigh} Methinks it's a fond remembrance of all those wistful reduxes ~~ "Of all sad words of tongue or pen The saddest are these, it might have been." The stuff of Red Pllenty, then. But it's still unicorn-land; Muricans never parse their reptile-brain enthusiasms as they are flowing out, over cigars and 100 yo Port. And especially lacking amidst the Ronnie worshippers, The Kissinger and that litany of scrofulous neocons of the ilk of Wolfowitz, Kristol and clones (as they successfully targeted the marlowes of the disgruntled masses) was any sense at all of the bottomless-Hatred engendered in these young desert-Losers: 50ish% unemployed forever and living under the tyranny of a lethal religion, (should they even try to get laid! anywhere near their "country"/tribe.) Anyway.. MEGO at the full litany [20/20 hindsight] of the puerile utter absence of Murican foresight re most of the issues in this screed. I don't much care that the "econ guesses" are apt to be least accurate [simply because Econ-itself is a bogus pseudo-science and all.] noting that Karl Rove has a book now, comparing the McKinley election to the forthcoming.. (he's on C. Rose just now.) It's about the $$$, the tactics/strategies of a bloodless computer-game; just as it Will be played. Machiavelli R'us.. Ferenghi with smaller ears? I gotta Love Stockman's concluding comments... Needless to say, bombing wont stop them; it will just make more of them. Ironically, what can stop them is the Assad government and the ground forces of its Hezbollah and the Iranian Republican Guard allies. Its time to let them settle an ancient quarrel that has never been any of America’s business anyway. But Imperial Washington is so caught up in its myths, lies and hegemonic stupidity that it can not see the obvious. And that is why a quarter century after the cold war ended peace still hasn’t been given a chance and the reason that horrific events like last week’s barbarism in Paris still keep happening. If I stay far enough away from the 2016 daily-fog of Pre-Next-war I can catch up with a large cache of books ... as I tally-up how close/or not was any Stockman prescience of the Murican character then and still (does anyone see any improvement .. to speak of?) Thanks for the romp. I think we'll be missing BHO earlier than I'd imagined.

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