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New non-justified example
I agree with what he says about OO patterns. The p/r equivalents are usually simpler and are "local views", often based on relational formulas, and not some large hand-built monmonstrosity.

One thing about his program size challenge problem is that he does not justify the need for it. Just because a language can do something intellectually keen does not by itself make it a better language. "My vacuum tube can make new vacuum tubes" might be a neat trick, but not very useful if nobody wants vacuum tubes.

He should show it in a practical context.

I also like his comment about how to sneak LISP into an organization: tell the boss that it is XML. Perhaps somebody can write an interpreter that uses angle brackets instead of parenthesis.
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Expand Edited by tablizer May 30, 2002, 05:23:19 PM EDT
New Clarification
(* .... does not justify the need for it. *)

"It" is a given feature, and not program size in general.
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     Fascinating article about the power of LISP - (bluke) - (16)
         Nice article. - (static)
         Paul Graham writes a lot of good Lisp advocacy - (ben_tilly)
         A nice "read". My favorite quote: - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
             But as always, suite tool to the job - (tonytib)
         Interesting article - (JayMehaffey) - (9)
             That reminds me. - (static)
             Re: code size and programming power is stunningly spurious - (a6l6e6x) - (7)
                 You, uh, missed the point - (JayMehaffey) - (6)
                     And *you* missed the point - (ben_tilly)
                     Programming Time - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                         "Any sufficiently complex program reinvents the DB" - (tablizer) - (2)
                             Proper abstraction - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 Persistence is not the main issue - (tablizer)
                     Organic software engineering? - (tablizer)
         non-justified example - (tablizer) - (1)
             Clarification - (tablizer)

> We didn't need to have you spouting Yoda quotes to know that you're sad... but thanks for the extra effort...
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