VW post 2008 diesels had "defeat device" software to avoid emissions scrutiny. - (Another Scott) - (56) - Sept. 18, 2015, 01:17:45 PM EDT
         how would the software know - (lincoln) - (4) - Sept. 18, 2015, 02:43:25 PM EDT
             It's plugged in - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2015, 02:53:05 PM EDT
                 Found another article. - (static) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:51:33 PM EDT
                 Re: It's plugged in - (lincoln) - Sept. 19, 2015, 01:50:29 PM EDT
             Re: how would the software know - (hnick) - Sept. 19, 2015, 02:10:06 PM EDT
         Wonder who ratted that one out... - (scoenye) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2015, 09:50:32 PM EDT
             Ouch. Seems the CARB had it figured out. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:03:12 PM EDT
             I heard a similar story even further back. - (static) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:55:34 PM EDT
         Reuters: VW could face $18B in fines. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 18, 2015, 09:58:55 PM EDT
             Are diesels even a good idea? - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 19, 2015, 09:54:22 AM EDT
                 Rolling back - (scoenye) - Sept. 19, 2015, 10:26:23 AM EDT
                 TANSTAAFL. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 19, 2015, 10:32:48 AM EDT
         years ago in alaska diesels were exempt from emissions testing - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2015, 05:24:46 PM EDT
         It's all OK now. The CEO said he's sorry! - (a6l6e6x) - (20) - Sept. 21, 2015, 09:25:21 AM EDT
             As I read it, the $37,500 is per day of non-compliance, not per car. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2015, 10:30:05 AM EDT
                 Of course, the stories explicitly say per car, so ... :-/ - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2015, 11:52:57 AM EDT
                     Yah, what he said! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 21, 2015, 04:21:49 PM EDT
             I think it's absurd to imagine that such a plan could possibly be implemented - (Ashton) - (15) - Sept. 21, 2015, 04:41:59 PM EDT
                 is it? - (boxley) - (14) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:16:00 AM EDT
                     And is your "retired petro chemist" a Tea Party member? - (lincoln) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2015, 01:56:42 PM EDT
                         no, catholic liberal -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 02:49:28 PM EDT
                             I've never met a liberal - (lincoln) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2015, 02:44:28 PM EDT
                                 your loss -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 25, 2015, 03:19:19 PM EDT
                                 You claim to be a "liberal" and yet support a Nixon created entity? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2015, 08:17:22 AM EDT
                                     Hey, even crooks can do something good - (lincoln) - Sept. 28, 2015, 10:43:12 AM EDT
                     Doesn't smell right. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2015, 04:51:05 PM EDT
                         dunno about smell but sulpher burns hot, take it out harder to burn -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2015, 06:21:47 PM EDT
                             Not the way it works. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2015, 06:37:11 PM EDT
                                 kinda makes my point, regulators make the cars run like crap, what the retired guy said -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 07:11:57 PM EDT
                                     Um, modern diesels are great compared to, say, a 1980 Rabbit diesel. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2015, 07:23:00 PM EDT
                                     Burning point is no criterion for use in a Diesel engine - (scoenye) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:09:52 PM EDT
                                         Neat stuff. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:32:52 PM EDT
                                         very nice -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:58:45 PM EDT
             The CEO is really sorry now! - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 23, 2015, 11:07:07 AM EDT
         The problem is world wide -- 11 M vehicles. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:25:44 AM EDT
         I'm convinced there's a joke in there ... - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:51:26 AM EDT
         Here's how they caught them - (malraux) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 02:11:40 PM EDT
             Good find! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2015, 03:53:22 PM EDT
             What I cannot parse at all, though.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 22, 2015, 04:35:36 PM EDT
             Interesting reason - (scoenye) - Sept. 22, 2015, 08:41:59 PM EDT
             Maybe the EPA will update their tests, too. - (static) - Sept. 23, 2015, 01:57:57 AM EDT
         What I was thinking, in more detail - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 25, 2015, 01:24:57 PM EDT
             one piece has been around a few years - (boxley) - Sept. 25, 2015, 02:09:59 PM EDT
         We're gonna need a bigger probe - (scoenye) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2015, 09:53:58 PM EDT
             Interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2015, 12:47:30 AM EDT
         Four more carmakers join emissions rigging list - (lincoln) - (5) - Oct. 12, 2015, 10:31:08 AM EDT
             Not the same thing - (malraux) - (4) - Oct. 12, 2015, 12:04:36 PM EDT
                 Should it? - (drook) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2015, 01:25:32 PM EDT
                     Point being: - (malraux) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:26:45 PM EDT
                         Your first two paragraphs, 100% agree, it's the third I question - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:39:22 PM EDT
                             From what I remember, the test is that bad. - (malraux) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:51:39 PM EDT
         There, fixed. - (scoenye) - (4) - Oct. 28, 2015, 06:07:52 PM EDT
             Interesting. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 28, 2015, 09:54:34 PM EDT
                 The test was going to change in 2017 - (scoenye) - (1) - Oct. 28, 2015, 10:44:17 PM EDT
                     Ah. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 28, 2015, 11:40:36 PM EDT
             BBC has you covered. - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 29, 2015, 12:14:18 AM EDT