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Post #404,720
by scoenye
9/18/15 9:50:32 PM
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New Wonder who ratted that one out...
Aprilia, ~15 years ago, couldn't get their flagship RSV Mille to pass emissions tests so the thing was sold with a neutered fuel mapping. It turned out the unrestricted mapping was aboard as well and snipping a single wire uncorked the lot. EPA was not too happy with that...
Post #404,722
by Another Scott
9/18/15 10:03:12 PM
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New Ouch. Seems the CARB had it figured out.
At the end of the NY Times piece:

Richard Corey, an executive officer on the California Air Resources Board, credited “dogged detective work in the lab” for the discovery of the software, which he said resulted in the admission from Volkswagen that the company was using the devices.

E.P.A. officials declined to reveal why they chose to initiate the investigation.

The Volkswagen case is not the first federal investigation into the use of defeat devices. In 2007, the federal government reached a landmark settlement requiring Casper’s Electronics, of Mundelein, Ill., to stop selling the devices, and to pay a $74,000 civil penalty. The company had sold approximately 44,000 defeat devices through its website and retailers since 2001.


Cheers,
Scott.
Post #404,724
by static
Picture of static
9/18/15 10:55:34 PM
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New I heard a similar story even further back.
Don't think it was Aprilia, but I don't remember. They met regulations by putting an extra baffle in the inlet manifold or something similar. Which was dead simple to remove and "improved" the performance tremendously.

Wade.
     VW post 2008 diesels had "defeat device" software to avoid emissions scrutiny. - (Another Scott) - (56) - Sept. 18, 2015, 01:17:45 PM EDT
         how would the software know - (lincoln) - (4) - Sept. 18, 2015, 02:43:25 PM EDT
             It's plugged in - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2015, 02:53:05 PM EDT
                 Found another article. - (static) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:51:33 PM EDT
                 Re: It's plugged in - (lincoln) - Sept. 19, 2015, 01:50:29 PM EDT
             Re: how would the software know - (hnick) - Sept. 19, 2015, 02:10:06 PM EDT
         Wonder who ratted that one out... - (scoenye) - (2) - Sept. 18, 2015, 09:50:32 PM EDT
             Ouch. Seems the CARB had it figured out. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:03:12 PM EDT
             I heard a similar story even further back. - (static) - Sept. 18, 2015, 10:55:34 PM EDT
         Reuters: VW could face $18B in fines. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 18, 2015, 09:58:55 PM EDT
             Are diesels even a good idea? - (drook) - (2) - Sept. 19, 2015, 09:54:22 AM EDT
                 Rolling back - (scoenye) - Sept. 19, 2015, 10:26:23 AM EDT
                 TANSTAAFL. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 19, 2015, 10:32:48 AM EDT
         years ago in alaska diesels were exempt from emissions testing - (boxley) - Sept. 20, 2015, 05:24:46 PM EDT
         It's all OK now. The CEO said he's sorry! - (a6l6e6x) - (20) - Sept. 21, 2015, 09:25:21 AM EDT
             As I read it, the $37,500 is per day of non-compliance, not per car. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 21, 2015, 10:30:05 AM EDT
                 Of course, the stories explicitly say per car, so ... :-/ - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 21, 2015, 11:52:57 AM EDT
                     Yah, what he said! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 21, 2015, 04:21:49 PM EDT
             I think it's absurd to imagine that such a plan could possibly be implemented - (Ashton) - (15) - Sept. 21, 2015, 04:41:59 PM EDT
                 is it? - (boxley) - (14) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:16:00 AM EDT
                     And is your "retired petro chemist" a Tea Party member? - (lincoln) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2015, 01:56:42 PM EDT
                         no, catholic liberal -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 02:49:28 PM EDT
                             I've never met a liberal - (lincoln) - (3) - Sept. 25, 2015, 02:44:28 PM EDT
                                 your loss -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 25, 2015, 03:19:19 PM EDT
                                 You claim to be a "liberal" and yet support a Nixon created entity? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2015, 08:17:22 AM EDT
                                     Hey, even crooks can do something good - (lincoln) - Sept. 28, 2015, 10:43:12 AM EDT
                     Doesn't smell right. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2015, 04:51:05 PM EDT
                         dunno about smell but sulpher burns hot, take it out harder to burn -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2015, 06:21:47 PM EDT
                             Not the way it works. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Sept. 22, 2015, 06:37:11 PM EDT
                                 kinda makes my point, regulators make the cars run like crap, what the retired guy said -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 07:11:57 PM EDT
                                     Um, modern diesels are great compared to, say, a 1980 Rabbit diesel. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2015, 07:23:00 PM EDT
                                     Burning point is no criterion for use in a Diesel engine - (scoenye) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:09:52 PM EDT
                                         Neat stuff. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:32:52 PM EDT
                                         very nice -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:58:45 PM EDT
             The CEO is really sorry now! - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 23, 2015, 11:07:07 AM EDT
         The problem is world wide -- 11 M vehicles. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:25:44 AM EDT
         I'm convinced there's a joke in there ... - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 22, 2015, 09:51:26 AM EDT
         Here's how they caught them - (malraux) - (4) - Sept. 22, 2015, 02:11:40 PM EDT
             Good find! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2015, 03:53:22 PM EDT
             What I cannot parse at all, though.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 22, 2015, 04:35:36 PM EDT
             Interesting reason - (scoenye) - Sept. 22, 2015, 08:41:59 PM EDT
             Maybe the EPA will update their tests, too. - (static) - Sept. 23, 2015, 01:57:57 AM EDT
         What I was thinking, in more detail - (drook) - (1) - Sept. 25, 2015, 01:24:57 PM EDT
             one piece has been around a few years - (boxley) - Sept. 25, 2015, 02:09:59 PM EDT
         We're gonna need a bigger probe - (scoenye) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2015, 09:53:58 PM EDT
             Interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2015, 12:47:30 AM EDT
         Four more carmakers join emissions rigging list - (lincoln) - (5) - Oct. 12, 2015, 10:31:08 AM EDT
             Not the same thing - (malraux) - (4) - Oct. 12, 2015, 12:04:36 PM EDT
                 Should it? - (drook) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2015, 01:25:32 PM EDT
                     Point being: - (malraux) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:26:45 PM EDT
                         Your first two paragraphs, 100% agree, it's the third I question - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:39:22 PM EDT
                             From what I remember, the test is that bad. - (malraux) - Oct. 12, 2015, 02:51:39 PM EDT
         There, fixed. - (scoenye) - (4) - Oct. 28, 2015, 06:07:52 PM EDT
             Interesting. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 28, 2015, 09:54:34 PM EDT
                 The test was going to change in 2017 - (scoenye) - (1) - Oct. 28, 2015, 10:44:17 PM EDT
                     Ah. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 28, 2015, 11:40:36 PM EDT
             BBC has you covered. - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 29, 2015, 12:14:18 AM EDT

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