That's comparing apples to road apples

Post #404,603 by gcareaga 9/13/15 10:31:39 PM Reply	That's comparing apples to road apples Also, sixty isn't that big a class. Think 150 person frosh calculus.
Post #404,604 by rcareaga 9/13/15 10:37:04 PM Reply	then let's give up Here's what we do: Every freshman accepted to UC gets handed a diploma and an invoice upon matriculation. No problem. Everyone is treated the same. Everyone passes. The state gets the graduates it deserves. Only...quadruple the present tuition. California needs the money.
Post #404,605 by boxley 9/13/15 10:39:18 PM Reply	gonna do that make it free and open to everyone wouldnt need profs only administrators. Much cheaper amiright? you can kill people for America at age 18 but need to be 21 to buy a beer
Post #404,607 by gcareaga 9/13/15 10:59:00 PM Reply	No i am sure WH was as engaging a lecturer as you say. Hell, Bernard Elbaum made preindustrial European economic history fascinating to me. A flipped class generally makes students more accountable and creates better performances. It is not about free passes or lower standards. It is JFK's rising tide.
Post #404,619 by rcareaga 9/14/15 1:16:54 PM Reply	And then there was Bert Kaplan Nice guy, by all accounts, and a well-respected scholar. Deadly lecturer, though. I lasted just one hour before I dropped his class, and count myself lucky to have survived those interminable five dozen minutes, although a substrate of "youthful experimentation" may have strengthened my fibre. Others were not so fortunate. Dozens of comatose undergraduates were laid out like cordwood on the Stevenson quad. Some recovered; others were impaired to some degree for years; a few remained ever after in a "persistent vegetative state." Three or four expired even before the paramedics arrived. I've heard rumors that some of the survivors subsequently became Republicans, but I'd like not to credit this. So yeah, bad lecturers can make for bad pedagogy. We do not, however, abolish surgery following the occasional malpractice suit. cordially,
Post #404,631 by gcareaga 9/14/15 7:37:54 PM Reply	Yeah but We do adopt new surgical procedures when the outcomes are better. Think laparoscopic versus traditional gall bladder removal.

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