Post #401,619
5/8/15 1:59:23 PM
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that certainly gets the gold medal for ghoulishness
I got nuthin'. Interstate 5? California? Whereabouts?
I trust it was not the stoners, who are already the objects of your understandable resentment, who drained the beer and pried off the rings. Might the vultures have been mere drunks, and if you knew that, would you have remained disposed to cut them some slack on the grounds that, unlike potheads, they did not make the claim so implausible to you that they were not brain-damaged in consequence of their preference for recreational intoxicants?
cordially,
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Post #401,657
5/10/15 4:52:49 PM
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South of San Clemente.
They were heading to Torrey Pines for a golf week-end. I honestly can't say if it was the stoners who stole from them. It's possible, I suppose. The worst of them suffered a broken arm and the other two were ambulatory when the ambulance arrived. But I choose not to believe that even stoners, having seen that they'd killed at least two people for certain and likely killed two more would take the time to rip the jewelry from their victims. Even I will give them credit for that much humanity.
As far your hypothetical goes, again, I cannot say. This happened exactly 13 days after my 13th birthday. I wouldn't hazard a guess as to what my reaction would have been had it been alcohol instead of pot. It likely would have been different. It might have screwed my thinking up to the point that I became one of the herd of apologists insisting that "Alcohol hurts people and Pot never hurts anyone" that are very de rigueur. ;0)
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Post #401,681
5/11/15 6:41:51 PM
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knee jerk
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Post #401,703
5/12/15 12:28:12 PM
5/12/15 4:04:32 PM
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doped driving
On the very few occasions on which I drove thus impaired (a distant era indeed), I was paranoid and highly unhappy with the circumstances that had placed me behind the wheel (contra mmoffitt's premises that stoners are uniformly in denial in this matter). My driving, over the course of relatively short distances on each occasion, was accordingly conservative, slow. In later years I know that I occasionally took the wheel with what would today be deemed impermissible blood alcohol levels in a spirit of blithe indifference.
I drive so little anymore (I noticed the other week that my parallel parking chops have pretty much withered and died) that I'd never operate a motor vehicle at any level of chemical impairment.
cordially,
Edited by rcareaga
May 12, 2015, 04:04:24 PM EDT
Edited by rcareaga
May 12, 2015, 04:04:32 PM EDT
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Post #401,709
5/12/15 3:32:41 PM
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you are the perfect example
I make no claims that smoking does not impair your judgment and slow your reflexes. Of course it does. But stats and studies show that you are aware of it, and alter your driving according.
Does every one? No. Most young males are crappy drivers, enjoying the rush of adrenaline by going too fast and taking too many chances. They think they will live forever, and do not account for the deadly damage possible. And I assume smoking does little to alter this behavior. But mm will spend the rest of his life demonizing based on a single incident,no matter what the facts show otherwise.
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Post #401,712
5/12/15 4:08:48 PM
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Precisely
mm will spend the rest of his life demonizing based on a single incident
It was a traumatic incident, of course, but he will never leave off drawing unwontedly broad conclusions from the tragedy. Presumably he will assist Indiana in maintaining the present mediaeval strictures and penalties long after the civilized portions of the country have given up on these.
cordially,
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Post #401,741
5/13/15 4:42:27 PM
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Drunk vs. doped
A drunk driver will blow through a stop sign. A doped driver will stop and wait for it to turn green.
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Post #401,742
5/13/15 4:48:39 PM
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Impairment
I don't risk driving impaired and will only have one adult beverage with a meal and a long wait if I have to drive. My friends N&L prefer to pick me up for drinks since I don't start to become fun until the second beer.
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Post #401,781
5/14/15 10:39:04 PM
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Yes, all relly good science is posted on "jointblog". Jesus.
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Post #401,789
5/15/15 7:57:27 AM
5/15/15 7:58:30 AM
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your favorite method of arguing this point
Is kill the messenger.
Read the links.
Jesus? Yup, you need a sky fairy to back your position. Ahh, magical thinking.
Edited by crazy
May 15, 2015, 07:58:30 AM EDT
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Post #401,805
5/15/15 4:53:46 PM
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Let me put it this way.
Drug users and their dealers claim drugs are not only harmless, but are an actual benefit to society. Film at 11.
As far as my understanding of "science" goes, I have two undergraduate degrees in science and a Master of Science in Mathematics.
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Post #401,808
5/15/15 8:26:57 PM
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and yet you still shoot the messenger
Oh, of course, you set up a straw man to ridicule first.
You seethe in a dark place.
Anger is a result of unmet expectations.
And you are very angry.
What expectation did you have that the universe failed to provide for?
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Post #401,880
5/18/15 10:36:55 PM
5/18/15 10:51:36 PM
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this one is pretty straightforward
Edited by crazy
May 18, 2015, 10:51:36 PM EDT
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Post #401,888
5/19/15 11:09:16 AM
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There's just not much science behind this either way at this point.
Emphasis Mine. In a paper published today in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), researchers for the first time comprehensively describe existing abnormalities in brain function and structure of long-term marijuana users with multiple magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) techniques. Findings show chronic marijuana users have smaller brain volume in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC), a part of the brain commonly associated with addiction, but also increased brain connectivity.
“We have seen a steady increase in the incidence of marijuana use since 2007,“said Dr. Francesca Filbey, Associate Professor in the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences at the University of Texas at Dallas and Director of the Cognitive Neuroscience Research in Addictive Disorders at the Center for BrainHealth. “However, research on its long-term effects remains scarce despite the changes in legislation surrounding marijuana and the continuing conversation surrounding this relevant public health topic.” http://www.brainhealth.utdallas.edu/blog_page/study-shows-marijuanas-long-term-effects-on-the-brain
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