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New Fair enough...

But if a "normal hijacking" was considered "acceptable", why create a plan to "take out" Al Queda? I mean, assuming that the US does not lay battle plans for a war against an entity that poses only an "acceptable threat", the plan that was instituted against Al Queda post 9/11 should never have been prepared pre-9/11, no?


Personally, I think that the attack plan against Al Queda had nothing to do with the airline attacks. Al Queda, has a long history of attacks against the US that more than justify a plan being laid out to "take out" the Al Queda.

I just have a problem with the President continuously repeating that he didn't take additional actions because he didn't know that they were going to fly the planes into building.
New Slightly less fair......
I just have a problem with the President continuously repeating that he didn't take additional actions because he didn't know that they were going to fly the planes into building.
Some specific actions were taken.

Well, one.

Ashcroft stopped flying commercial flights.

You know. The ones that have the risk of terrorist hijackings.
New Admitted Bias.
I've got to say (again if I've said it elsewhere) that I can't talk rationally about this. See, I'm a student pilot getting ready for my check ride. I was actually in the air solo on 9/11 and got called down immediately. Student pilots were "officially" grounded for about 2 weeks. Then, the weather turned shitty here and I couldn't fly for another 2 weeks. BUT! the bin Laden family was cleared to fly WEEKS BEFORE I WAS. Now, maybe you can forgive me, but the fact that the bin Laden Group was responsible for Dubya's first non-family earned million, the fact that at least one Deputy FBI Director resigned protesting Dubya's immediate call to "back off the Saudis" following his Selection as Resident, and the fact that the fricking kinfolk of the apparent architect of the aircraft into buildings were allowed to fly BEFORE I WAS has forever chastened my (normally) objective view.

In short, there is a hell of a lot of baggage predisposing me to believe the worst of our Resident. Further fueling my jadedness is the fact that whenever anyone dares to criticize the Resident or his family there is an almost knee-jerk reaction of "INTENSIFIED WARNING OF FURTHER ATTACKS! CODE RED! CODE RED! CODE RED!" coming out of the White House.

I believe the Executive Branch is occupied by un-American, indeed EVIL people who are capable of any number of unspeakable acts.

But then, maybe that's just me ;-)
     White House: Terror warnings a tactic to fend off criticism - (Silverlock) - (98)
         Klansman gets life in prison for 1963 killings -?? -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
             Huh? - (Silverlock) - (1)
                 I think I had junk in my proxy server... - (Simon_Jester)
             Ignore this dup-post - (Silverlock)
         But of course... - (bepatient) - (56)
             So why cut off the drone ops? - (Brandioch) - (55)
                 Cute use of selective memory. - (bepatient) - (54)
                     You're still trying for that strawman tangent, aren't you? - (Brandioch) - (43)
                         Why don't you... - (bepatient) - (42)
                             Why don't you buy a dictionary. - (Brandioch)
                             WHOA...wait a minute... - (Simon_Jester) - (40)
                                 They just spent the better part.... - (bepatient) - (39)
                                     I will even give you the chance to show it isn't straw. - (Brandioch) - (37)
                                         Nice wording - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                             And they mocked Clinton for that, didn't they? - (Brandioch)
                                         Tom Tomorrow: ____calls a spayed a spayed._________:-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                                         So what about the drones? -NT - (bepatient) - (33)
                                             Uh..their pilots have been reassigned to KP. Co$t reduction? -NT - (Ashton)
                                             You don't have to grovel. - (Brandioch) - (29)
                                                 You don't have to get it... - (bepatient) - (28)
                                                     Company - (bepatient) - (27)
                                                         You REALLY need to learn how to read. - (Brandioch) - (26)
                                                             chuckle - (bepatient) - (25)
                                                                 Like I said, learn to read. - (Brandioch) - (24)
                                                                     Oh... - (bepatient) - (23)
                                                                         Bill "Strawman" Pathetic. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                                                             Not my problem... - (bepatient)
                                                                         Umm...you mean, this quote? - (Simon_Jester) - (20)
                                                                             Nope...but that was a good try... - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                                                 So you mean this quote.... - (Simon_Jester) - (18)
                                                                                     Yep.. - (bepatient) - (17)
                                                                                         Excellent...so, what are you arguing again? - (Simon_Jester) - (16)
                                                                                             I wasn't arguing... - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                                                                 Nah Beep, no need to despise - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                                                                     Actually Ash... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                                                         Damn, BeeP.. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                             Oooh...my favorite! -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                                                 Grin -- I agree... - (Simon_Jester)
                                                                                                 What does that have to do with my original point? - (Silverlock) - (9)
                                                                                                     Everything - (bepatient) - (6)
                                                                                                         You continue to miss the point - (Silverlock) - (4)
                                                                                                             To deflect >what< criticism? - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                                 Don't play stupid - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                                 Bepatient... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                                                                     Look...its really simple. - (bepatient)
                                                                                                         Dupe post. Ignore. -NT - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                     Absolutely nothing.... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                                         that was...um...unexpected.... - (bepatient)
                                             Stopped under Clinton Administration - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                 Just too cockamamie amateurish: Not to be true!____:( -NT - (Ashton)
                                     Actually I think it is politics as usual. - (Simon_Jester)
                     Re: Cute use of selective memory. - (Simon_Jester) - (9)
                         I know the thread. - (bepatient) - (4)
                             Ah...I see. thank you. -NT - (Simon_Jester)
                             Maybe it should be "Bill 'Strawman' Pathetic"? - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                 However, Brandioch... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                     Yup. - (Brandioch)
                         Okay, Simon, Here's MY problem. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                             Fair enough... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                 Slightly less fair...... - (Brandioch)
                                 Admitted Bias. - (mmoffitt)
         Back to the point - (Silverlock) - (36)
             Because: we have to somehow weather this group - til 1/05 - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Nothing else. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                     I think I got a new sig! - (jb4)
             Are you certain... - (bepatient) - (32)
                 Pardon me, but BULLSHIT! - (Silverlock) - (20)
                     Are you being dense on purpose? - (bepatient) - (19)
                         Wow... Beep Stooping.... -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                             True...not necessary...apologies -NT - (bepatient)
                         To spell it out... - (Simon_Jester) - (7)
                             I'm not mmissing that point. - (bepatient) - (6)
                                 But I am apparently stuttering ;-) -NT - (bepatient)
                                 Well, I'm glad you're not missing that point... - (Simon_Jester) - (4)
                                     Not around here. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         Well...there is a lot of humor to go around. - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                             I suppose - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                 Exactly.. - (Simon_Jester)
                         I am trying not to insult - (Silverlock) - (8)
                             My point was simple... - (bepatient) - (7)
                                 Umm... fine... - (Silverlock) - (6)
                                     Yep - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         "missing the point"? - (Silverlock) - (2)
                                             Come on .... - (folkert)
                                             Bog - (bepatient)
                                     Well... - (folkert) - (1)
                                         No need really. - (bepatient)
                 And what might that be? - (jb4) - (10)
                     Wow.... - (bepatient) - (9)
                         Oh come on now.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                             Amazingly enough... - (bepatient)
                         C'mon Bill..stop shoveling straw - (jb4) - (6)
                             The latest incarnation... - (bepatient) - (5)
                                 Yeah, except for one thing: - (jb4) - (4)
                                     I read them. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                         Re: I read them. - (Spammer 1029) - (1)
                                             SPAM much? -NT - (bepatient)
                                         Re: I read them. - (Spammer 1029)

You entered famous last wordsburg territory thinking along that line.
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