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Post #397,153
by hnick
12/15/14 11:40:41 AM
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New Why they survive...
The religions based on that mess that came out of Mesopotamia are authoritarian societal frameworks: Do what the leaders say, unconditionally, because god says so. This has worked well for authority figures for millennia and nobody discards a winning system.
Currently the "religious right" fights fiercely because they are upholding the will of god, not some cranky old rich white man. In theory. It works well because they don't have to defend anything; deities are unquestionable. Probably because they are hard to get a straight answer from... Unless, of course, you are the leader; deities seem to talk to leaders a LOT.
Judaism operated that way for millennia, and was fine tuned into Christianity to operate in a different society. Islam is the same mess fine tuned for Arabic culture. SSDD. It's not going away anytime soon.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
Post #397,155
by a6l6e6x
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12/15/14 11:53:45 AM
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New Amen! :)
Not much good has come from the traditions of desert goat fuckers.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
Post #397,176
by static
12/15/14 9:35:08 PM
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New It is definitely a bit also-ran.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13536257-in-the-shadow-of-the-sword

This book summarises history from about 100AD forward in and around Mesopotamia, the Levant and what is now Turkey. The evidence is fairly strong that Islam is a largely manufactured religion that has little to do with who or what Mohammed was. And it looks like the various religious authorities have worked hard to hide this. It is enticing to think that they learnt from how the Jewish rulers codified Judaism more than a thousand years earlier, or perhaps how Christianity became Pauline a few hundred years earlier.

Wade.
     Central Sydney seige in progress. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Dec. 14, 2014, 07:11:12 PM EST
         'Bout a half-mile from where I work. - (static) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2014, 12:53:03 AM EST
             Small world. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 15, 2014, 07:27:33 AM EST
         Police have stormed the cafe... - (Another Scott) - (10) - Dec. 15, 2014, 10:34:46 AM EST
             The more of this stuff that happens, ... - (mmoffitt) - (9) - Dec. 15, 2014, 11:25:01 AM EST
                 Why they survive... - (hnick) - (2) - Dec. 15, 2014, 11:40:41 AM EST
                     Amen! :) - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 15, 2014, 11:53:45 AM EST
                     It is definitely a bit also-ran. - (static) - Dec. 15, 2014, 09:35:08 PM EST
                 This disconnect from Reason can't be parsed except from an even larger area of - (Ashton) - Dec. 15, 2014, 05:45:47 PM EST
                 As if to underscore the point. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2014, 11:26:56 AM EST
                     Eventually, there will have to be a war against Islam. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2014, 12:02:14 PM EST
                         Dunno. - (Another Scott) - Dec. 16, 2014, 12:21:03 PM EST
                         Needs a tipping-point--141 dead children; are they There? Yet.. - (Ashton) - Dec. 16, 2014, 01:34:40 PM EST
                         cf. Static's recent link to book re an unauthorized bio - (Ashton) - Dec. 16, 2014, 01:42:12 PM EST

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