Democrat Lite?

Post #397,027 by hnick 12/11/14 1:25:14 PM Reply	Democrat Lite? What we got was a full blown Republican from the early 2000's, late 1990's. He's an embarrassment. I was going to say that it was better than the alternative, but now "liberals", who he doesn't represent in the slightest, now get to split the blame for all the conservative damage done. Now, I no longer think this system is fixable. There is no resistance to massive corruption anywhere. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #397,034 by pwhysall 12/11/14 4:27:43 PM Reply	It all went to hell when the words "liberal" and "liberal values", standing for respect for the rights of others, standing up for the little guy, social justice (hell, even that has been subverted into a perjorative) were successfully turned into insults. And as for "socialist" - well. In the country where people live shorter, unhappier lives than just about anywhere else in the West, it's considered a good thing to "double down" on what you believe in, and damn the fucking facts. It's just as well I live here. If I lived there, I'd have to leave.
Post #397,040 by Ashton 12/11/14 6:06:10 PM Reply	Your lot has perpetrated some disgusting outrages, over the centuries but, subsequently (well, often-enough..) demonstrated that you are corrigible. (Though I'm still waiting for Her Majesty or someone to sponsor a small statue of Turing.. for visible thus obvious atonement for That premeditated horror: also matching the US's concept of Gratitude, even to those who literally saved-Your-National-Ass.) Only thing keeping me stationed here is the logistics of liquidation of 'assets' sufficient to glean say, an old caravan? have no permanent address--and maybe walk around the Pennines and similar spots of the Continent--with more leisure than the last times. (New property owner would have to grant perpetual amnesty to the ferals, etc. Imagine trying to 'enforce' that, eh?) (I've long-ago had-IT with Incorrigibles of all genres, obviously.) Can no longer, however, put all necessaries in a pair of saddle-bags, but I am adaptable to a slightly scaled-up variant. If the New Yahoos perform as I anticipate, by ~'16 it will be time for that scaling. Rumination sez: it could be a genuine Hoot, something in short supply in this sodden zeitgeist. (ordinary Rain is OK, though :-) ..If 'they' are allowing any more Murican ex-Pats in, at that late date. This shit is never simple. Try not to burn-down your financial- eco- socio- systems in the interim, eh? It doesn't seem there'll be a U.S.E. (-"of Euro") any time soon, which may be just as well. Ta PS: Exactly so--when 'liberal' became an epithet--there! was prima facie Evidence of severe mental aberration, quite beyond the deeply-ingrained usuals: xenophobia, racism, hypocrisy, weapon-masturbation and icky sanctimony. Confucius got that part about language-murder and its consequences spot-on. Incorrigibles, by definition.
Post #397,042 by Another Scott 12/11/14 10:21:43 PM Reply	It's been a problem for a while... CAP: What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer’s dollar, then … we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I’m proud to say I’m a "Liberal." - John F. Kennedy, September 14, 1960 Of course, "liberal" used to mean something good in this country... AddictingInfo: “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.” ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792 Words matter, a lot. Democrats not being able to find a way to keep control of the memes and the argument has caused lots of problems. It's just as well I live here. If I lived there, I'd have to leave. The press loves conflict. Things aren't quite as bleak as they seem in a lot of ways. Over there, too. ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #397,059 by lincoln 12/12/14 10:28:54 AM Reply	Re: It's been a problem for a while... Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home–but not for housing. They are strong for labor–but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights. They favor minimum wage–the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all–but they won’t spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine–for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing–but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing–so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. -- Harry S. Truman http://samuel-warde.com/2012/07/20-famous-liberal-quotes/ Satan (impatiently) to Newcomer: The trouble with you Chicago people is, that you think you are the best people down here; whereas you are merely the most numerous. - - - Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's New Calendar" 1897

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